Quote from: be.open on July 11, 2022, 08:50:20 PM

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on July 11, 2022, 09:45:32 AM

Anti-vaxxers are still morons.

I haven't been vaccinated against covid-19, but I don't consider myself an moron. Not being vaccinated is my own deliberate decision - in this massive medical experiment, I chose to participate as an unvaccinated control group. 2.5 years after the start of the pandemic, I am still alive and well, although the level of antibodies in my blood is zero. I do not make loud statements about the effectiveness or ineffectiveness of covid-19 vaccines, but my personal strategy for living without a covid-19 vaccine right now in practice is showing its viability and effectiveness - and you cannot refute this with any reference to scientific evidence. If I get covid-19 and need hospitalization - I admit that my strategy didn't work, but not before.

Dead wrong IMO. Most strategies involve probabilities. If you have made an accurate assessment of the risks of genuine injury from the covaids and base your strategy on that, you could still die from it and have made a rational decision.

Is it a 'mistake' to wear a harness when climbing an antenna tower just because you didn't happen to slip and fall?

One of the elements of the coviads scamdemic is that reliable data about many many aspects of the thing needed to make rational decisions is unavailable. In many cases, although the data is utterly fundamental and relatively easy to precisely estimate (e.g., background infection rate), it has been diligently NOT obtained. This is very deliberate because it allows the 'authorities' to say 'We know of no indications of blah, blah, blah.' and they use this as legal justification to perpetuate the fraud.

Tests are also lagging, questionable in validity, and used in a highly fraudulent way. Again, by strategic design. You may indeed have antibodies. As a matter of fact, a fair percentage of the global population had pre-existing antibodies and other immune system defenses and couldn't catch SARS-cov-2 even if they tried. This likely because of run-ins with previous coronavirus (which is one of the types of virus which commonly cause the seasonal common cold.)

Seasonal infectious ailment, and particularly respiratory ones, act as a booster in human populations making it so that most people don't catch every in a symptomatic form at all, and most who do get a mild case which is gone in a few days. Millions of years of evolution have tuned human's immune systems for this to be the common case. To the degree that masks, social distancing, and especially applying evolutionary pressures to a pathogen by 'vaccination' work at all, these protocols are likely to fuck the ecology up completely and lead to significant problems.

The best defense is to, as much as possible, live like a normal human with traditionally normal interactions, and try to keep your immune system healthy. If a genuinely problematic epidemic is in town, then maybe do take some extraordinary precautions. DON'T listen to the 'public health' authorities and the 'doctors' who are in their echo-chamber and on the industry dole. At the top of their pyramid the decision makers probably do understand the ecological science behind what's going on and the WANT sick and dead people. The peons (including most doctors) below them mostly do not. All they know is that the system gives them a somewhat better standard of living than most people, and intuitively they know that they don't want to lose these perks. Beyond that they don't seem to care much about anything, and certainly not about science.