Quote from: n0nce on July 11, 2022, 05:42:22 PM

Sparrow simply connects to Samourai wallet's CoinJoin implementation and to Samourai's own coordinator.

Thanks for clarifying that for me. I haven't used Sparrow although I've been seeing it mentioned frequently these days. I looked into it a couple of days ago and like the features it provides, like an integrated block explorer. I was hoping it could connect directly to core and wouldn't need to a SPV server, but from reading the documents it looks like it just uses Electrum SPV servers for it's connections. I may install it and play around with it for a bit just get familiarized.

As for CoinJoin, I'm still on the fence about it. Same with JoinMarket, tbh. I don't mind using ChipMixer for some things, but usually I rely on Monero to break the link between me and my coins.

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on Today at 07:53:05 AM

I don't care about any altcoin except Monero, so correct me if I'm wrong here, but I was under the impression that there are plenty of decentralized swap services out there which will let you swap bitcoin for some other coin directly to and from your wallet without requiring centralized wallets or KYC. The real challenge for DEXs has always been to integrate fiat pairs, since the legacy banking system is so slow and impossible to use with smart contracts or non custodial escrows.

You're not wrong, there are plenty of those types of services around, but I tend to forget about them because I haven't used them. I have trust issues. In fact, I mentioned one (ShapeShift) not long ago that I've been meaning to try out, but I still haven't had the guts.

My comments were more about tendencies, i.e. people want convenience; if I was a shitcoiner and I had to go to three of four different sites to trade fiat at one, XMR at another, Shithereum at a third, and Tron at a fourth just to avoid KYC or taint proclamations, I might just give up and hand over all my data to CoinBase. If Bisq made trading those shitcoins easier, and included "accounts" for multiple smart-chains more people might be attracted.

This could certainly fall into the category of "be careful what you wish for." I do want to see more trade offers available on bisq, but do I want all these shitcoiners there? Probably not.

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on Today at 07:53:05 AM

Quote from: witcher_sense on Today at 07:13:02 AM

Yet, not only don't they stop using it but also participate in signature campaigns and write positive reviews about these surveillance tools.

It's exactly the same as all the entities I listed above which sell out their principles for profit. The average person is no different. Pump and dump altcoins? Proven scams like YoBit? Surveillance tools like Wasabi? People don't care as long as they get paid.

It is quite sad to see all these reputable accounts running around promoting a wallet that's hurting the fungibility of bitcoin. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. I guess that's what you get when you mix greed with short-sightedness.