Quote from: Cnut237 on Today at 04:11:19 PM

Quote from: BADecker on Today at 03:14:45 PM

I have been asking franky1 for ages for some real proof of virus isolation... where some researcher took some "gunk" out of a person, and actually "pulled" a virus out of the stuff. When researchers do this kind of isolation, they write the steps in their notebooks, along with explanations, so that other researchers can duplicate the process, to see if they can all get the same results. F-1 hasn't been able to show me a notebook with this being done.

The SARS-CoV-2 virus has been isolated many times. You are correct that reproducibility of experimental results is important, and that everything is documented. There are innumerable papers on this.

Here's the original Chinese isolation of the virus: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2012-7

But you can pick other countires, too, if you prefer...
US: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/grows-virus-cell-culture.html
Korea: https://ophrp.org/journal/view.php?doi=10.24171/j.phrp.2020.11.1.02
Germany: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2196-x

etc., etc.

You can't claim lack of evidence.

Quote from: BADecker on Today at 03:14:45 PM

Dr. Kaufman hasn't been able to find it either, with his access to medical libraries that he has because he is a doctor.

Didn't he get struck off for that scam research project he pulled where he gave himself huge quantities of Amazon vouchers? We were talking about this the other day.
Regardless, though, this is one individual. Compare with the huge number of independent sources from all around the world, a few of which I've listed above, who are saying the exact opposite.

And that openvaers stuff you quote, too? Again, a lack of evidence, and again not a credible scientific institution, simply a site run by one person, Liz Willner, who is a web designer, not a medical professional.

So now show us the lab notebook that the researcher filled out as he was doing the process... where he explains every step of the way what he is doing to isolate any virus. And regarding Covid, show us the video that went along with it.

Pick any one of those links you gave us, and pull out the part where the the process is being described while it is being done. We want the info about the machines used, filter paper kinds, centrifuge, and an explanation of what is being done as it is.

We don't want some generic process that somebody did with something, who knows what.

And if they actually did get a virus out of it (rather than create one) show us the people who they tested it on to see if they actually had a dangerous virus.

Don't want to go to all that trouble? Great! I don't blame you. Nobody has done such, so why should you attempt to find something that isn't there?

Anybody can write a report that essentially says, "I isolated this virus... ." Children can write a report like that. Lets get to the details so that we can know what was actually done... all the details.

Cool