Quote from: JollyGood on July 17, 2022, 12:26:14 PM

I do think engaging a general courteous manner with all parties including a reputable gambling/gaming website even if you make a scam allegation against them. I would say that the correct protocol would be to keep calm when engaging with members across the spectrum with differing views while presenting facts and evidence to back up your claim and standing your ground.

I agree, and this is the professional way to deal with it. This is not me, and I am not a professional in communications. I am just a private individual, a user of FortuneJack, who got 105000 euros stolen from him.

Quote from: JollyGood on July 17, 2022, 12:26:14 PM

And though it would probably mean nothing in the context of this thread, as far my opinion is concerned I am 100% certain (on the basis of what I have read thus far) what is clear is that FortuneJack have not accepted any wrong doing on their part and they claim they operate within their Terms and Conditions.

Have you ever seen a scammer admit? You know 1xbit right? They also claim all of their scams are according to "their terms and conditions". Just take a look at the last scam accusation against them.

Quote from: JollyGood on July 17, 2022, 12:26:14 PM

You seem to have failed, you did not succeed when you attempted to get the community to pressure FortuneJack. The majority of forum members that are aware of the situation have not backed you, your claim or your flag. Does that mean you should change something in your approach or does that mean you are still going to remain on the same track.

No, it means that the majority have no morals and are of low value, it wouldn't be the first community in human history to be as such, and we've seen much worse. I did nothing wrong on FortuneJack, I only made bets that they accepted, and did not cheat.

Quote from: JollyGood on July 17, 2022, 12:26:14 PM

The only option you have is a legal one and that route will mean you having to find a lawyer either on a no-win-no-fee basis or basically you will have to pay their fees from your own pocket. And if you ever got to that stage there is no guarantee you will win.

That is correct, and that would be the right thing to do for the next step. It's taking too long for my lawyer to assess the case but it's going to court, there is going to be a lawyer taking this to court no matter what. And there's going to be the appeal, and then the highest courts in the country if needed.

Quote from: JollyGood on July 17, 2022, 12:26:14 PM

Yes I noticed some of your posts in other threads, it is good to see you trying to become a more active member of the community by posting in other threads.

Yeah I like participating here in some of the threads, even if I'm being red tagged and getting no merit at all for it.

Quote from: JollyGood on July 17, 2022, 12:26:14 PM

I would advise you to move on from this episode with a view that you wagered around €4700 and won around €92,000. As for the other €5700 you wagered which could have brought you around €100,000, just take it as you receiving your wagered amounts back but the winnings were disputed by the website operator.

There is no other "view" on this than the screenshots of my bets shown in this thread. Theft is theft and accepting it is wrong.

Quote from: JollyGood on July 17, 2022, 12:26:14 PM

If you decide to continue your claim: Can you point out in this link to their Terms and Conditions exactly which parts of the contract you claim were broken by FortuneJack?

Do you want me go check their terms and conditions where it says they must pay winning bets? With all the respect, no sorry.

Quote from: JollyGood on July 17, 2022, 12:26:14 PM

And after that, can you point out in the same Terms and Conditions which parts of the contract FortuneJack claim were broken by you?

Please check on page 2 of this thread, what was written by the FortuneJack representative. He is falsely claiming that one player cannot win more 100,000 euros in sportsbets although I had 2 different bets involved, which should make it 100,000 euros*2=200,000 euros.