Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on Today at 06:58:23 AM

Kudos to Bisq for jumping on this so quickly.

Yeah, those tweets made a big stink on bisk.chat's Growth room. Most people were not happy to see the twitter contributor step into that drama.

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on Today at 06:58:23 AM

And some of the reactions from the Samourai guys over a single tweet are pretty childish and pathetic.

That is childish and pathetic. For the same reasons that we wouldn't judge bisq on the tweets of one rogue intern, it's best not to demonize Samourai Wallet for that tweet. I would advise the Samourai development team to take a cue from Bisq on this one, and consider changing their twitter tactics.

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on Today at 06:58:23 AM

Quote from: dkbit98 on July 28, 2022, 08:47:22 PM

Wasabi is not spying on you and with Tor enabled they don't even know your real IP address.
Centralized exchanges are spying people for sure. they are blacklisting, freezing coins, closing accounts, and most people are still using them.

You don't need an IP address to spy on someone. And Wasabi have already clearly stated that they are/will be paying blockchain analysis companies to analyze your UTXOs and tell them the history of each and every one of them. If that's not spying then I don't know what is.

Regardless of what you call it, what Wasabi is doing isn't good for bitcoin. Even if it isn't spying in a way to to associate coins with a specific individual, it is gathering intelligence in an attempt to devalue bitcoin. How the Wasabi developers aren't seeing this is mind boggling, and leaves me no choice but to agree with this:

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on Today at 06:58:23 AM

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that they are the sole arbitrators of what is and is not fungible. As I said previously, as far as I am concerned this viewpoint is actively malicious.

Anyway, it seems I've been coming to the defense of definitions quite frequently as of late:

Quote from: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spy

spy (verb)
spied; spying

Definition of spy (Entry 1 of 2)

transitive verb
1: to watch secretly usually for hostile purposes
2: to catch sight of : SEE
3: to search or look for intensively —usually used with out
   spy out places fit for vending … goods
   — S. E. Morison

intransitive verb
1: to observe or search for something : LOOK
2: to watch secretly as a spy

spy (noun)
plural: spies

Definition of spy (Entry 2 of 2)
1: one that spies:
a: one who keeps secret watch on a person or thing to obtain information
b: a person employed by one nation to secretly convey classified information of strategic importance to another nation
   also : a person who conveys the trade secrets of one company to another
2: an act of spying