Reply to suchmoon

I will respond to your comment point by point.

Navalny

Quote from: suchmoon on July 30, 2022, 02:24:55 PM

Come on... Navalny is in prison on fake charges, and many people related to him are under various degrees of repressions.

Navalny is not an oppositionist, but a naive fool who thought that for his sake the Russian people would revolt. His arrival in Russia from Germany in January 2021 is the most idiotic act. Navalny is an inflated image of an "oppositionist", beneficial to the Kremlin for some time, such as showing that Russia has its own oppositionists. Real oppositionists (such as Alexei Kungurov, whom you most likely have never even heard of) are not allowed to speak on large state information channels. At the same time, Navalny, who was constantly invited to speak on the same "pseudo-opposition" channels, such as Ekho Moskvy, which was financed by the state-owned Russian company Gazprom-Media.
At Navalny’s request, opposition leader Maxim Martsinkevich (who was tortured to death in prison in 2020), was imprisoned in the prosecutor’s office. At Navalny's initiative, instead of marching towards the Kremlin, a "sitting strike" was staged and a protest on Bolotnaya Square was strangled in 2013. Navalny didn't campaign for the use of real means of counteracting the system, such as strikes, tax waivers, highway closures, and so on.
By the way, here is how Alexei Kungurov commented on Navalny's imprisonment

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"Believe me, you definitely shouldn't worry about Navalny - everything is almost in chocolate with him.
I can compare at least with how I was sitting."

Kiselev

Quote from: suchmoon on July 30, 2022, 02:24:55 PM

Kiselev Ukrainian propagandist LOL, do you really think everyone's an idiot here.

About Kiselev - you are already acting at the level of instincts, not reason. I even specifically indicated the name and surname of the journalist Yevgeny Kiselev, you apparently still confused him with Dmitry Kiselev. Yevgeny Kiselyov is a journalist in Ukraine who moved there from Russia. You do not even have a superficial knowledge of Russian-Ukrainian relations, but you still climb everywhere to criticize. But this is nothing, the main thing is that something is deposited in your head.

Protesters

Quote from: suchmoon on July 30, 2022, 02:24:55 PM

Right. Bring up Strelkov while you're at it. Some people not being in jail doesn't negate the fact that an ordinary person can be beaten, jailed, fined, and possibly have criminal charges filed for a solitary "protest", which is technically legal but denied by all this "discreditation" bullshit.

Tell me, in the United States and European countries, there are no such examples in relation to protesters? What is Julian Assange sitting for, can you answer?

Is this a war or a special operation

Quote from: suchmoon on July 30, 2022, 02:24:55 PM

Simple question: is there war in Ukraine, or "special operation"?

This is a proxy war between Russia and NATO with the help of manpower in the form of Ukrainian soldiers. Evidence links: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Russian troops near Kyiv

Quote from: suchmoon on July 30, 2022, 02:24:55 PM

I was talking about the first month. Which also included a hasty retreat from Kyiv.

Show me at least one quote from the Russian President, his ministers or the Russian General Staff that Russian troops were going to capture Kyiv. This news was trumpeted by the Western media, and then they themselves denied it, presenting it as an "unsuccessful plan of the Kremlin."
It's the same as publishing a fake everywhere that American astronauts are going to land on Mars next month, and then a month later also say that American astronauts failed to achieve their goals.
Russian troops launched a military group of about 15,000 people near Kyiv to contain the Kyiv troops so that they would not go for reinforcements to the eastern part. Russian troops were stationed there until, as a result of negotiations in Istanbul on March 29, 2022, a decision was made to remove the Russian group from that direction. It was after the negotiations that the Russian troops gone from the Kyiv region, which was then declared as "a great victory" for the Ukrainian military. By the way, how are the Ukrainian bayraktars doing there, about whom you were so worried? Something little news about them lately.

Conquered territories

Quote from: suchmoon on July 30, 2022, 02:24:55 PM

Apparently taking territory is easier than actually holding it, who could have known.

How many cities were recaptured by Ukrainian troops or how many cities saw major uprisings of local residents against the Russian military?

Ukrainian nazis with flowers

Quote from: suchmoon on July 30, 2022, 02:24:55 PM

Damn Ukrainian nazis not greeting Russian soldiers with flowers, is that what this is?

You don't even try to be objective.
Of course, Ukrainian Nazis do not greet the Russian army with flowers, but many locals (who are not Nazis) greet Russian soldiers quite favorably.
I must say right away that, of course, not everyone is happy, but there are those who openly welcome the Russian army. According to the Ukrainian government, these are traitors and collaborators, who, by the way, Ukrainian soldiers can execute for treason. Therefore, it is even surprising that at least someone meets Russians at all, because it is mortally dangerous. These people are very brave.
As confirmation of my words, you can watch the video of the British TV channel Sky News. Timecode 03 min 45 sec
Or you can read an article on a French news site in the last paragraph, as French journalists report the words of the inhabitants of Lysichansk:

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"We do not believe that the Russian army is firing on the city, and we wish the Russians to be victorious."

In addition, here are a couple of links for you to a video from Telegram, how Ukrainians meet Russian soldiers: 1, 2

Second language

Quote from: suchmoon on July 30, 2022, 02:24:55 PM

The bullshit about not prohibiting second languages etc is laughable to non-Russians in the former USSR.

The Russian language was abolished as the state language in countries such as Ukraine and the Baltic states, but was not canceled in Kazakhstan. In Russia, there are plenty of national regions where a second state language is adopted. In Ukraine, they refused to comply with the Minsk agreements and give autonomy to the Donetsk and Lugansk republics so that their Russian-speaking residents could study, work and speak Russian.

Russian influence

Quote from: suchmoon on July 30, 2022, 02:24:55 PM

There is a reason why most of Eastern Europe wants to get as far from Russian influence as possible.

What official surveys and studies do you rely on in your statements?

15-ruble manual

Quote from: suchmoon on July 30, 2022, 02:24:55 PM

Not something you could possibly understand even if your belief in the benevolence of Putin and other Russian tzars is genuine, and not pasted from a 15 ruble методичка.

About the 15-ruble manual is even funnier than about Kiselyov. In fact, it is on Ukrainian resources (which you allegedly do not need) that this term is very often used, so you gave yourself away with your ears.

Reply to paxmao

Quote from: paxmao on July 30, 2022, 02:50:11 PM

Russia will not run out of soviet era tanks and artillery, but HIMARS seem to certainly be making a difference on the ability to disrupt logistics. I do not give full credit to the British intelligence reports, but there seems to be a good chance on Ukraine actually being able to re-take the offensive, while the RF assaults seem quite stalled in the east.
This touches several of the weak points of RF and can make the war take a different perspective.

You constantly talk in this thread about the future victories of Ukraine and how clumsily the Russian army is fighting. Apparently, you are very confident in the victory of Ukraine, then I offer you a bet with the following conditions:
- if Ukrainian troops manage to recapture any of these cities before January 1, 2023: Kherson, Mariupol, Melitopol, then I will leave this forum forever.
- if the Ukrainian troops until January 1, 2023 are NOT able to recapture any of these cities: Kherson, Mariupol, Melitopol, then you will leave this forum forever.
If you're not ready for this bet, then maybe you will stop your wishful talking?

Reply to Waradlain

Quote from: Waradlain on July 30, 2022, 08:20:04 PM

Found some info regarding captives slaughtered by Russia in Olenivka.

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... In short: russia staged it. russia never wanted to return the Azovstal defenders to Ukraine, where they would receive a hero's welcome.

Russia was very reluctant to return the prisoners from Azovstal to Ukraine, which is why it exchanged 144 soldiers, including prisoners from Azovstal, for Russian soldiers. You are quoting some nonsense.
It amazes me that such primitive things have to be explained. Nevertheless, it is not surprising that so many people are ready to believe in the most diverse Ukrainian nonsense.

Reply to TwitchySeal

Quote from: TwitchySeal on July 30, 2022, 10:04:51 PM

Did you miss the part where the Russia tried to take Kiev and remove the government and ended up having to retreat?

As for Kyiv, I commented in this post above.