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Well I'm happy not to live in the USA.
We get way more vacation with a regular job. Also job security is way better. Sick leave no matter how long you need to recover, etc.

Americans think they live in the most free country in the world but that's simply not true.

Yet average GDP for every EU country except for Luxemburg is still lower than that of the USA.

Certain job sectors in fact across Europe such as IT pay pittance salaries compared to the USA. Sure, you only have private healthcare in the States but it is also of a much higher quality.
Many Europeans need to flock exactly to the States to get experimental cancer treatments simply not available in Europe.

I think you are pretty much the definition of an ignorant European who stupidly have outsourced energy security to a country you for some bizarre historical reason hate and you have also installed countless layers of government thinking it will protect you from trouble where in fact it is turning into a similar political setup that Adolf Hitler wanted to achieve: Germany in control and no one else gets a say. When someone wants to leave said political system such as the UK you shame them and completely forget it was them who saved your asses from all speaking German or Russian by now.

It is also my understanding that the once secure job market in the likes of The Netherlands now with year only contracts is nowhere near as safe as it used to be. Plus the constant mumblings over ditching the mortgage tax break would make the average worker / mortgage payer much poorer if it were to go.

The EU concept was Germany's plan B if the war was lost, to continue their dominance over Europe.
Sadly the occupied Europe of WW2 has long forgotten why they are not all now speaking German.

Am I correct in thinking you mostly live in Netherlands. I understand that thousands of farmers are to be forced to cease farming because of some misguided Green policy on reducing Nitrate pollution. Only to import food which has likely been produced under the exact same systems. Thereby outsourcing pollution, that's OK then.
Europe and indeed the entire world need as much food production this year as is possible to prevent mass starvation for those that cannot bid the high market prices needed to secure essential commodities. Shame on the Netherlands' well heeled population for their efforts to reduce that food supply.
Oh the US is no different! we are being run by the inmates from the asylum, the latest the Climate Bill $369 billion, what utter fuckwits could have conceived this and at this time in history when the world is on the brink.
Those with even modest amounts of Bitcoin will ride this storm better than most.

Farmers are not ceasing their work they are just negotiating which is normal here.
We have a tradition of getting things worked out so I have no doubt many will get compensated etc.
For a country that mostly lives under sea level we know how to pull through together.

Because we are a highly populated country with one of the highest densities it isn't strange that we generate a lot of nitrate and other greenhouse gases. Also we have one of the most advanced farming industries in the world increasing that load. Importing has always been cheaper for us and it also distributes the nitrate load. Most farming we do is for export.

Countries like France have way more space so it's not a strange concept to move farming to other places in the EU.
The problem is finding a workable solution for the farmers which I believe they will find.

On the flipside we have a working democracy so we can always kick the government out if it becomes unworkable.

And for the WW2 propaganda... without the people from the European continent you would all be living in a tipi running around with bows and arrows Kiss

And remember who hired all the nazis when the war ended ;-)

Thank you for enlightening me on the farming situation as seen from the Netherlands itself.
So you also agree with outsourcing the pollution to increase your collective green credentials whilst benefiting from cheap imports.
As a sovereign country you must do what is best for Netherlands under current ideology.

"The WW2 propaganda" as you refer to Germany's plan B was common knowledge in Europe after the war.
But has quietly been erased from collective memory so that your generation is shocked if it is mentioned.
I visited Holland 45 years ago, where they did not like being called Dutch as it was too like Deutsche and preferred the term Hollander as memories of the Nazi Occupation were still raw.
Oh well forgive and forget, the EU is now one big equal happy family (ruled by Germany)

We don't half talk some crap here, me included while Bitcoin bounces along nicely.

Outsourcing anything that leads to the same amount of pollution around the world, just so the pollution in your own country doesn't look as bad has never made sense to me unless the "looking not so bad" agenda is exactly your goal. It most likely will only increase global pollution this mindset as long distance transportation doesn't come without consequences.

People still need to eat, and I think locally sourced is best, unless you trust the WEF overlords not to feed you with bugs.

The Dutch delegation at the WEF meetings was one of the largest. It is just heartbreaking to see a country I lived in go down that route.
I don't think many citizens can see what is happening.

Remember what Mark Rutte said recently "Ukraine's war is also our war". Personally I think it's disgusting, whilst you are actively trying to erase a profession / lifestyle from your own country.

I think the Germans have too much control what is going on in The Netherlands.

And I worry the fragmented political system in The Netherlands cannot turn that tide. (Very easy to ignore a certain group of voices what I've seen happen in their elections)

Anyway those our my thoughts. If the Dutch are happy and think they are free, they should go along with whatever is best.

I'm confronted with my own set of political imbeciles here in the UK who completely baffle me with every clown move they make it has to be said.