Quote from: btc-mike on April 04, 2014, 06:17:39 PM

Quote from: Spoetnik on April 04, 2014, 11:31:45 AM

Quote from: precrime3 on April 04, 2014, 12:24:50 AM

I will post gpuz/cgminer screenshots if you would like of my gpu (7750) running script and x11 algos. I don't have a watt meter so I can't measure power consumption but one can assume lower temps, lower watt usage.

i said CPU MINER

gpu miners are not even listed on the ANN page lol
when was the coin released ? and they are STILL have not added them to the ANN page yet everything else conceivable is ?
and yet its still paraded around as a cpu only coin and listed on the "cpu only coins" topic ...

I will rename the "CPU Only" topic to CPU Friendly or something similar. The current, publicly available X11 GPU miner does NOT have a large advantage over the X11 CPU miner. That is why it is why X11 coins are on the list.

The current GPU miner may leave room for optimization.

Hello

We're a bit off-topic but we got something useful out of the conversation lol
That would be a really great idea actually because lets not forget a lot of new people come here and are going to be overwhelmed by so much info.

CPU only coins don't even exist really.. it's a ploy for when they are launched to lure in users and then all of a sudden there is word of gpu miners being worked on
that can stretch out for months and show me a guy out there that woudln't sit on a gpu miner for 3 months privately while everyone else is stuck cpu mining.
see what i am saying ? i REALLY hope so everyone Wink

..AKA: Smelters gpu miner ring a bell guys Huh

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And you all out there can't say this has not happened and i have suggested this was a very real possibility with x11 coins and any coin really.
and i have been screamed at in response when all i have ever done since day one is use my skills and experience to point out
how a dev can use a variety of angles to his advantage.. ARE they using the advantage ? that is a whole other question to get into.
All that blah blah blah is deadly obvious and should go with out saying to each one us except noobs that just got here..
and i said it for them ! ..so don't flame me for warning new guys coming along, i am looking out for ever person in crypto myself included.
Lets just keep things honest and on the table. I can take some scammy bs if its up front but i can't tolerate scammy weazles lying and playing deceptive games.

and one guy said earlier SHA256 is 100% optimized and then he said Scypt was not.. pure bullshit..
if there was some major optimization that could be done to scrypt it would been done already so don't feed me that bs to push an angle lol
i know i looked into it specifically actually and aside from some hashing checking optimization which did little i didn't see anything major..

Now X11 on the other hand is something we should be asking questions about.. i have not looked at the source yet but someone said earlier
the difference between x11 and Quark was some RANDOM rounds of hashing using multiple algos.. THAT was *if true a valuable contribution to this topic.
When he said that my ears perked up and i thought ok now we're getting somewhere lol
Let me return with a quick comment on that to perk your ears up now.. try this on for size lol

I made a miner prob 6 months ago that was based off another guys miner that he i found in the source code he had experimented with actually
REMOVING one of the hashing algo's completely (but it gave that guy like 60% invalid shares)
I did this and other various mods and i even coded some super small algos to improve efficiency on the hashing checking too
Simply removing the algo i think produces a LOT invalid shares BUT all i did was add a code check on hash validation that fixed that.
And what that did was show my miner hashing twice as fast but i am not sure it actually made any difference wise with coin earnings (not double at least anyway)
I see it as a an efficiency issue though.. one of many i made / looked into etc
So what does that teach us guys ? What does it tell you if i can delete one of the hashing algos competently from the miner ?
AND STILL submit 100% valid shares at any difficulty !

Anyway i want the same answers as OP does and i have *some insight to this stuff because i have worked on miners for ages (lots of quark miner mods)

I also think OP should self mod the topic next time maybe lol

Lastly i have always shared any coding efficiency experiments etc i have made.. my source is always available and if anyone wants to see.. i have never had anything to hide.