Quote from: Cnut237 on Today at 12:43:29 PM

Quote from: tvbcof on Today at 10:19:07 AM

When a bunch of simps are chumped by huxters such as NASA and their spreading of fake science, then the simps have _no_ leg to stand on when NASA comes clean on 'the science'. That is good reason to call attention to it.

If someone spends pretty much their entire time in P&S attacking every example of scientific evidence that is presented, then it seems reasonable to conclude that their arguments are faith-based rather than fact-based. If they then cite as a source of authority an institution that they've previously and routinely disparaged, then that just lends weight to the conclusion that they're simply seeking out anything that anybody says that supports (or, more often, and more superficially, merely appears to support) whatever half-baked notion they have already decided, sans evidence, is the indisputable truth.

The conclusions scientists draw from scientific study are rather faith based. Consider over the last 300 years, all the scientific conclusions that were considered hard fact until some other scientist came along and proved them wrong. Until you realize two things about science, your faith in it is misplaced:
1. Science is mostly not understood by the scientists who are discovering/examining it, until...
2. the engineers come in and attempt to use the science, thereby correcting the mistakes the scientists make.

The way you seem to have faith in science is the same way religious people have faith in God. You are making science a religion for yourself, and you don't even want to look at this fact.

Quote from: Cnut237 on Today at 12:43:29 PM

Quote from: tvbcof on Today at 10:19:07 AM

As for 'big oil', they are the biggest sponsors of the 'green' scammers who are making bank off the whole charade. Last I looked oil was going for something like $90/barrel and it technically easier and cheaper to extract/transfer than it ever was due to a variety of developments. Do get it? Probably not.

No, I don't get it, because this is complete nonsense. You do realise that the oil companies make vast profits, and indeed have announced record-breaking profits during the last few weeks? But you contend that they are actually intent on destroying their own gargantuan money-making machine in order to further a green agenda? Seems somewhat unlikely. Roll Eyes

The real reason you don't get it is because you don't want to get it. You are living in a fantasy world, partially propagated by the oil companies.

Oil people who are serious, know what it takes to build up an energy-producing system. It took the oil giants a hundred years to build their system into what it is today. 'Green' can't begin to compete, never will be able to, and they know it. In fact, 'green' is just barely hanging on with all the subsidies it gets from government. And the war in Europe has shown the Western European governments just how little 'green' really works. To promote 'green' is to promote failure so that when people realize how much of a failure it is, they will dive back into oil all the way.

I know. We all need to wake up and put a little more depth and scope into our thinking. I commend you for your attempts.

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