Quote from: NotATether on August 13, 2022, 10:54:52 AM

@ChipMixer

Are you concerned about the sanctions on Tornado Cash (an ethereum mixer) and whether the Feds will come after Bitcoin mixers next - specifically yours?

Right now as far as I understand, only American citizens are not allowed to use Tornado Cash which is a strange decision of they are also accusing it of laundering over $7 billion but that sounds ludicrous when it has passed around $7.6 billion in total.

If there are arrests and prosecutions of those behind mixers then it will send out a message to others out there.

In my opinion it is just a matter of time before law enforcement agencies manage to make a case against almost all mixers. Are they already building up cases against the bigger Bitcoin mixers? If they have, I am expecting them to go after all major mixers soon. If they have not, I expect it is inevitable.

Quote from: Lucius on August 13, 2022, 01:35:53 PM

@mk4&@NotATether, I think we have been able to conclude so far that CM does not base its business on some kind of half-assed security solutions when it comes to staying out of the reach of those who would like to disable them in what they do. When we talk about mixers that have been caught in various traps over the years, we are talking about a rather amateurish job on the part of their owners - and the last case also belongs to that category.

Maybe you are right, maybe they are very well as far as their security is concerned but when faced with the full financial might and determination of a law enforcement agency things can easily become tricky not just for Chipmixer but all mixers.

Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on August 13, 2022, 02:03:29 PM

I'll agree with Lucius here. I presume ChipMixer is very cautious when it comes to protecting their own privacy too. They probably write code, build the site, talk to us in this forum - all via anonymity-focused Internet solutions such as Tor or i2p. If I was running such mixer, I'd be sure I'd sooner or later have authorities stick their nose into my business.

The latter part the post stands out for me. Sooner or later authorities will be taking a look at any mixing operation and most probably cite an excuse to try to make arrests such as money laundering or tax evasion etc.

If mixer operators were aware law enforcement agencies would one day make a move on them yet years alter have not, they still have time to get their story ready. Imagine any mixer coder or developer standing in front of a judge in a Court of law explaining why they operated mixing websites. Would a judge or jury be able to comprehend the complexities of the matter when the prosecution will be putting forward charges and claims of money laundering?