Quote from: n0nce on August 15, 2022, 11:17:18 PM

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on August 15, 2022, 09:03:41 AM

According to the document I quoted extensively above, so much as withdrawing your coins to your own wallet which has not been linked to your KYC data is enough to put you on a watchlist.

He's such a visionary. This would also solve the scaling problem without the evil, evil, 'fake Bitcoin' IOUs that we are moving on the Lightning Network.

m0nce nice try to poke a derailment to avoid the nonsense oeleo keeps spewing out
ill just say this
bitcoin never leaves the bitcoin network. (fact, thats the beauty of the security)
whether its balance on an exchange mysql database.
whether its another unit of measure pegged at 1:1000 rate or 1:1 rate on another network.. those are not bitcoin thus someone somewhere owes you real bitcoin on the bitcoin network at a later date when they broadcast a real bitcoin transaction to the bitcoin network

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as for what oeleo said. the bit he was quoting is gudelines for a vasp.. lets call it vaspA where the quoted bit from FAFT is saying if vasp A is sending or receiving from another VASP where that VASP is not conducting KYC then treat the funds coming from the VASP as suspect
(this has nothing to do with random coins from users own wallets. its about funds coming from another exchange)
so oeleo is trying to pretend it means its about all coins from all sources of all wallets/users. but its not.
he is trying to exaggerate/make up and fake and pretend and lie about many things to falsely suggest that all coins are red flagged by default. but they are not

Quote from: n0nce on August 15, 2022, 11:17:18 PM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on August 15, 2022, 05:29:50 AM

About WasabiWallet, OP's concern is "taint". Wasabi's developers make sure that all UTXOs that enter their pool don't come from questionable sources. They merely want to protect their users from taint.

Except that there is no central list of 'what is tainted' and what's not,

while you lot are trying to stir the social drama about taint.
what you lot are ignoring(still) is it doesnt matter of source of funds before a mixer.. its the use of the mixer itself that puts a red flag on a utxo, which gets put on a watchlist(wher they can then look back at movements before he mix)
and those receiving funds from a mixer are red flagged. where that utxo is put on a watch list and they can follow the movements after the mixer

so no matter the source pre mix.. your on a watchlist. thus people are watching you.

and yes there is a established list of what causes a red flag