Quote from: Welsh on August 16, 2022, 10:53:54 AM

There's generally a pattern to a users posts. Of course, this is a generalisation, and therefore this isn't concrete. However, users start off with slightly less quality posts when they sign up, and over time they'll learn the standards of the forum, and get sucked in to the community, and therefore want to actually contribute. Now, guides, campaigns, and all of this is all well, and good. However, there's a difference between a user that wants to learn, and those that don't. Take the altcoin section as an example; there's plenty of users there that don't care about learning, and no matter how much you push what's acceptable, and isn't acceptable on the forum, they aren't going to listen.

Yes, most of them are only going to listen when they are kicked out of their paid campaign due to low quality posts. It's usually very difficult to reach such people.
Paid shills / bumpers are still active but luckily their Newbiespam Accounts don't carry any weight for bumping in these sections.

Quote from: Welsh on August 16, 2022, 10:53:54 AM

Then there's the users which are new, maybe to the forum or the language, and we can't discriminate against them for using poor structuring of sentences, because eventually these types of users might actually become some of the most valuable to the community. I for one don't have perfect English, for anyone that's from the UK, you might be familiar with the term "Wenglish". Also, my grammar definitely isn't perfect.

So, my point is we can put all the information we want out there, and I do believe it's already out there to some degree, but the audience matters. Those that read, and take into consideration those threads, are probably going to become good quality users anyhow. Whereas, those that aren't interested, and therefore more likely to be a spamming kind, aren't. Therefore, much of the effort is lost on the types of users you're talking about.

Our target group are especially Newbies and people interested in quality discussions / posts (or generally people interested in having a certain post quality, so normally all participants in signature campaigns paying in Bitcoin as such campaigns are requiring "quality posts").
I've tried to incentivize it via Merit but with limited success because my topic is also getting buried quickly.
But I wouldn't say no if our campaign is enligthening even to some sigspammers. Cheesy

Quote from: Welsh on August 16, 2022, 10:53:54 AM

So, while I definitely do appreciate any proactive way of increasing the quality of the forum, don't expect miracles. A campaign is only going to help those that are interested in the first place. Moderation is still the best thing we have for dealing with spam, even if that isn't always efficient, due to the reasons mentioned above.

We are aware that we can't reach everyone, especially the worst shitposters or paid spammers.

Quote from: Welsh on August 16, 2022, 10:53:54 AM

Also, worth noting; if you find a lot of spam in your local section, report it. If it doesn't get handled then that shows theymos that a moderator is needed in that section. Just because it doesn't get handled this time around, doesn't mean its meaningless, since it does indicate there's a need for either a dedicated moderator or an additional moderator depending on the workload.

Very important points. I'm reporting from time to time, both in local and international sections and I can recommend everyone to make use of the report function.

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Quote from: Pmalek on August 16, 2022, 08:05:51 AM

Supporting the campaign is not the equivalent of applying to translate the threads and customizing them in the local section, right?

Yes, this is correct. You can do it only if you wish so.

I can confirm that, sorry for my delayed reply. Cheesy

Quote from: tranthidung on Today at 09:33:37 AM

If I didn't miss anything regarding to translations of good topics to local languages, it is a second topic (campaign) for that ^{only count multiple-translation topics}

Help me translate my best posts in your Local Board by fillippone. It's 2 years ago
There are other topics that are translated one by one, not counted here.

Our translation campaign here is limited to translating / creating a single topic dedicated to "increase post quality in local boards" where points like "avoiding pyramid quotes" etc are presented.
It'll become clearer, when our German and Romanian versions are up.

Quote from: tranthidung on Today at 09:33:37 AM

I believe your initiative is great and somewhat it help to provide more quality topics in local boards. However, it is just sand in a desert and is not enough to improve quality of local boards in general.

Doesn't this apply to most campaigns / articles / guides here?
Some of them will be buried quickly and have little impact but as least some impact is already a good thing.
And bumping those topics from time to time can also help to generate more awareness. Wink

Quote from: tranthidung on Today at 09:33:37 AM

The quality in translation topics will be managed by the OP. How to keep it on topic, stop spam, non-sense posts is responsibility of OP. Because I am sure many posters will join but not for real discussion. Just for post quota and/ or merit hunting

Most likely yes but we will try to select good translators and avoid bounty spammers for cases where the intention is only a quick Merit grab.
And I can tell one thing already ahead: I won't give out Merit to Bounty spammers just applying here for a quick Merit grab. Such people will be denied.
We have seen this from other topics, it's not a problem limited to our campaign.