Quote from: ajiz138 on Today at 03:15:17 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 01:53:10 AM

So, even if you were to take portfolios of people who are trying to time the price versus those who DCA, you are likely going to get better performance with the DCA.. and even if you believe that you can beat a regular DCA approach, you have to account for your time too.. and in that regard, sure you might consider that it is fun to practice figuring out the BTC price movement in order to time the dips, if any, but you can still play around with attempting to buy the dips while DCAing at the same time... You would just not be using your whole budget for buying dips, merely a fraction of your budget would be used for buying dips.. and you can determine how much of a fraction you would like that to be - even if you appreciate that maybe it is better to not be wasting too much of your time and just make yourself buy regularly. .and maybe hold back on over stragetizing and/or over thinking the matter..

Actually I want to balanced it like that not all money has to buy dips but with DCA at the same time I want to do that and do it full time so that my expenses are balanced by determining two directions of concurrent investment between dips and DCA.
Maybe I should reset how this can be run at the same time because I want both to run maybe the expenses can be tried to be as regular as possible.

Historically, I have attempted to use some kind of an example of a budget that would use round numbers. Of course, if you are not brand new to bitcoin, then the example will NOT apply exactly in the same way, but you can still get the idea from it.

So let's say that Hypothetical 1 (bitcoin newbie) wants to project his/her BTC buying budget over 6 months, so s/he projects his spare cash and how much cash that s/he has coming in, and s/he finds that s/he has $3k in cash available and has about $500 per month coming in, so the total available for the 6 months is $6k. If the person is a newbie, s/he may well want to divide the $6k into three parts. The first part $2k is to buy BTC right way, and the remainder of the $4k would be divided between DCA and buying on dips. The DCA portion is $2k, so it is divided by 26, and it would amount to about $77 per week, and the strategizing for the remainder portion ($2k in this example) might have to do with trying to figure out how far down on that you want to structure buy orders what kinds of increments and how much per increment. If you were to buy $200 per increment, then you could create 10 buy orders - Maybe $500 apart, between $19,500 ish and $14,500-ish. Of course, you can choose whatever increments that you want if you want the buy orders to go down to a lower price or if you want to spend your whole stash by $18k because you believe that the BTC price is not going to go lower than that.

Since you established your expected budget, you can also have a system for dealing with any new money that might come in during that six months that was not expected, and you can divide any such new money in terms of buying on dips, lump sum buying or plugging it into your DCA amounts.

Quote from: ajiz138 on Today at 03:15:17 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 01:53:10 AM

Well, if we consider that you could have employed a DCA strategy throughout that time, and even invested a relatively small amount of $10 per week for the past 8 years which would have added up to about $4,180 invested, and would have gotten you nearly 4 BTC, and of course, if you had been able to take a bit more of an aggressive stance, then you could have invested 10x that amount at $100 per week and you would have invested $41,800 and would have gotten about 40 BTC during that same time. So DCA can be very powerful, even with relatively modest amounts invested on an ongoing and regular basis.

The calculation is quite reasonable for me because after I tried it with the calculator there is indeed a good thing for this DCA, as you suggest $10 as a small value and added with an aggressive attitude with an additional 5x or 10x additional capital every week then the amount will be big for a certain period, then with this DCA for a few years I will get a few more BTC, wow this is really what I want, but everything of course takes struggle right?
If DCA is in the way by me then I have to be strong.

Going through the whole process is not necessarily easy, and it sometimes can feel as if you are not making any progress.. and for sure there are no guarantees that you are going to come out ahead in the long term - even though bitcoin still seems to be amongst the best of asymmetric upside bets that is available to normies to be able to invest whatever amount of value is reasonable and prudent (and still sufficiently aggressive for your own circumstances). You do not want to end up in a position in which you overly spend your dollars and then you have an emergency and you have to cash out some or all of your BTC at a time that is anything other than your complete choosing, and that is perhaps part of the reason that you should want to set a sufficiently long timeline into the future such as 4-10 years or more and just keep building through that whole time with a kind of potential confidence that you are making a reasonable investment.. . and sure at the same time you can continue to study bitcoin and monitor bitcoin and attempt to figure out if its investment thesis is getting undermined during that time or not. We have frequently seen bitcoin have negative price performance, while at the same time bitcoin's investment thesis is continuing to get stronger...even though at the same time there are a lot of negative comments about it and whining and all kinds of bullshit to attempt to trick the BTC accumulators out of their coins and out of their long term strategies to accumulate BTC with prudent and personally tailored approach.

So you should not be investing $100 per week if it may well be much safer for you to do $10 per week or maybe even some amount in the middle.. such as $30 or $65 or $77.. you gotta find an amount that is not going to overly stress you but at the same time give you enough of a regular purchasing amount that you feel that you are making progress and you are not being too whimpy in your approach in that you will feel regretful about it later.

I am not saying it is easy to figure it out, and I am not saying that it is easy to ongoingly tweak without overly thinking the matter, but it is also likely that the longer that you practice, even with smaller amounts, you will better get to know the proper balance amount and you can increase the amounts as you get more and more used to making the various adjustments in your budget, whether it is cash coming in or monitoring your regular expenses.

Quote from: ajiz138 on Today at 03:15:17 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 01:53:10 AM

I have a thread

I will study this thread, and read in more detail, it is very interesting for me to read and explore the outline of bitcoin investment.

Yes.. you can post questions in that thread too. I sometimes get a bit wordy in my responses, and then sometimes I am working on some other ideas too... or maybe some of the predictions are not correct for now, but they were made at certain times and I attempt to assign probabilities that are based on what is going on at that time.. so I might ONLY focus on one price direction at a time, depending on what is happening.. even though for sure, my portfolio is always attempting to be structured to prepare for either price direction... and even extreme price movements that might happen.. which surely we do get those in Bitcoin on a seemingly regular basis.

Quote from: ajiz138 on Today at 03:15:17 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 01:53:10 AM

For sure, Excel can be used in very powerful ways to keep track and also to attempt to project various future scenarios including attempting to plan various strategies that might work decently well and to account for various alternative scenarios and to figure out if the strategy might need to be tweaked at certain time points if it can be determined that one scenario direction might be playing out versus another scenario direction.. and you can surely also get something directionally correct, but then not really be sure about the time frame for it to play out or the magnitude in which it might play out within certain time parameters that you have highlighted for yourself.

To make it easier for me if I project in an Excel Spreadsheet so anything I track in the future is pretty straightforward, so these notes are important for whatever scenario I run.
If there is no Excel, I may not know the results and expenses and income so far, so I will also definitely get a definite direction in every purchase of his records.
Not only I may many people take notes in Excel.

You can self teach yourself to design whatever price projections that you like, and Excel can be very powerful for more complex projections and also can be used for more basic projections too.. so yeah, you can keep older copies as well, or even link your various work sheets, too.