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People generally sell broken phones and computers and other electronics for parts, ebay is a prime example. In many cases people save the broken PCB's to extract the precious metals...

That is completely different from "selling random objects for broken phone parts". Broken phone parts are not a currency or a store of value (and it would take a fool to believe that).

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Gold has never been actually physically taken from citizens here in the USA, and even if they tried, people can come up with alot more creative ways of hiding them that make it not worth it for the government to even try...

Now you are just straight-up lying.

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102

The circumstances of the case were that a New York attorney named Frederick Barber Campbell had one deposit at Chase National Bank of over 5,000 troy ounces (160 kg) of gold. When Campbell attempted to withdraw the gold, Chase refused, and Campbell sued Chase. A federal prosecutor then indicted Campbell on the following day (September 27, 1933) for failing to surrender his gold.[12] Ultimately, the prosecution of Campbell failed, but the authority of the federal government to seize gold was upheld, and Campbell's gold was confiscated.

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Gus Farber, a diamond and jewelry merchant from San Francisco, was prosecuted for the sale of thirteen $20 gold coins without a license. Secret Service agents discovered the sale with the help of the buyer. Farber, his father, and 12 others were arrested in four American cities after a sting operation conducted by the Secret Service. The arrests took place simultaneously in New York and three California cities: San Francisco, San Jose, and Oakland. Morris Anolik was arrested in New York with $5,000 in U.S. and foreign gold coins; Dan Levin and Edward Friedman of San Jose were arrested with $15,000 in gold; Sam Nankin was arrested in Oakland; in San Francisco, nine men were arrested on charges of hoarding gold. In all, $24,000 in gold was seized by Secret Service Agents during the operation.[13]

David Baraban and his son Jacob owned a refining company. The Barabans' license to deal in unmelted scrap gold was revoked and so the Barabans operated their refining business under a license issued to a Minnie Sarch. The Barabans admitted that Minnie Sarch had nothing to do with the business and that she had obtained the license so that the Barabans could continue to deal in gold. The Barabans had a cigar box full of gold-filled scrap jewelry visible in one of the showcases. Government agents raided the Barabans' business and found another hidden box of US and foreign gold coins. The coins were seized and Baraban was charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States.[14]

Louis Ruffino was one individual indicted on three counts purporting to violations of the Trading with the Enemy Act of 1917, which restricted trade with countries hostile to the United States. Eventually, Ruffino appealed[15] the conviction to the Circuit Court of Appeals 9th District in 1940; however, the judgment of the lower courts was upheld based on the President's executive orders and the Gold Reserve Act of 1934. Ruffino, a resident of Sutter Creek in California-gold country, was convicted of possessing 78 ounces of gold and was sentenced to 6 months in jail, paid a $500 fine, and had his gold seized.[16]

Foreigners also had gold confiscated and were forced to accept paper money for their gold. The Uebersee Finanz-Korporation, a Swiss banking company, had $1,250,000 in gold coins for business use. The Uebersee Finanz-Korporation entrusted the gold to an American firm for safekeeping, and the Swiss were shocked to find that their gold was confiscated. The Swiss made appeals, but they were denied; they were entitled to paper money but not their gold. The Swiss company would have lost 40% of their gold's value if they had tried to buy the same amount of gold with the paper money that they received in exchange for their confiscated gold.[17]

Here is at least five instances of gold being seized from their rightful owners. Just because their government could. How are you going to react to this, pull an Alex Jones and declare Wikipedia to be a conspiracy theory?

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Bitcoin can in fact be seized, if hackers can steal it, then the government can steal it... with alot more ease than physically trying to find someones precious metals....
https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/04/22/seized-silk-road-bitcoin-to-clear-ross-ulbrichts-183-million-debt/

Bitcoin is on a public ledger, even if you coinjoin or mixed, chainalysis can work with law enforcement and seize them... You're not really hiding anything, your obfuscating, and they can easily figure that out.

Bitcoin can only be seized if you reveal the private key to the would-be seizers.

The fact is, law enforcement and hackers alike cannot brute force even a 160-bit address. They will never be able to brute-force a 256-bit private key even if they turned the sun into a Dyson sphere.

You are always welcome to ask law enforcement and Chainalysis to crack Satoshi's private key at https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa, they would be very happy to seize the coins (but they will never be able to because they will never find the private key with "chain analysis").

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As a matter of fact, you're a genius... if only humans invented this thing called a smelter to melt precious metals down so there wouldn't be any serial numbers.... Cmon bro, what are you like 12?

22. And something tells me that you are the one acting like a 12yro around here, because although I have not found any references citing this as a crime, you are entering into grey territory by melting the serial numbers off, putting a big target on your head by the government. Imagine trying to move that gold around, and customs see it.

Nobody would take that risk, especially since there is a less suspicious way of doing that (Bitcoin). Which, despite all your rambling about chainalysis, the truth is that they can not identify a single bitcoin trail until it reaches a KYC exchange. They can only label an ID on them (and even my little C++ Turing-complete programs can do that).