Quote from: MikeH on April 05, 2014, 05:39:27 PM

Quote from: billyjoeallen on April 05, 2014, 05:30:43 PM

Don't give us that shit. Putin is a thug. I think the West should stay out of it because it's not our business and I think many Ukranians are aspiring thugs themselves. But let's not kid ourselves. Russia has an extremely long history of autocratic rule. "Slav" literally means "slave". At least he's been a competent thug so far.

what do you mean the west should stay out of it? it would have never occurred if they hadn't organised it - Soros, McCain, Nuland etc. do some research, the MSM has been flat out lying.

Certain groups in the West (neocons) played a a part no doubt, but that doesn't mean that Western powers as a whole were behind it. There was and is a real desire for freedom and less corruption by many Ukranian People. I think they are being naive. If I was Ukranian, I'd GTFO of that shithole, even if it was my home. I'd take as many of my family members as I could with me. Whoever ends up in charge there isn't likely to be much better than the guy they threw out.

McCain is doing his best to retroactively deserve the torture he received in Viet Nam. Neocons think that they can fix stuff when all they do is get people killed and waste money.

Obama isn't competent enough to engineer a revolution. That's his best virtue. The west has a foreign policy establishment that's just smart enough to be dangerous. They rid the world of Saddam Hussein and left the Ayatollah as the regional power in the Middle East.