Quote from: be.open on September 05, 2022, 07:18:17 AM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on September 05, 2022, 05:19:39 AM

Quote from: be.open on September 03, 2022, 09:53:27 AM

Quote from: zasad@ on September 03, 2022, 09:37:45 AM

Any alternative with supplies will cost a lot more due to logistical problems. Therefore, a more likely scenario is the purchase of Russian gas in other countries, and according to documents, it will not come from Russia.

I don't think so - because of the same logistical problems. In order to resell Russian gas to the European Union in a democratic package, the intermediary must have some kind of surplus, and no one has such surplus now. Hungary recently agreed with Gazprom on additional gas supplies in the amount of several million cubic meters per day, which will come through the Turkish Stream - and this is perhaps all that the European Union can count on. If Hungary wants to share.

Wasn't Germany the intermediary before? I believe that there might be a conspiracy here. Tin-foil hats on, but the United States might have something to do with this. Because when Germany, the intermediary, has been importing more and more Natural Gas from Russia, they also started being less dependent on U.S. Gas. Isn't possible that the U.S. wants the E.U. to be more dependent on them than the Russians?

Yep. Germany was an intermediary and resold gas to neighbors through a virtual or physical reverse, but now this is in the past - Germany itself does not have enough gas in the conditions of the Nord Stream shutdown.

After reading more about the situation, and talking/learning about it more from smart people, I believe the U.S. didn't intentionally want Germany and the rest of Europe to be a casualty of the conflict. They wanted to use Europe, being the largest buyers of Russian Gas, to stop Russia from invading Ukraine. Biden thought it would be to their advantage, and they thought that Putin would surrender. But Biden never expected Russia's resilience in spite of the sanctions. What should they do now? The U.S. and Europe have no more choice but to keep going unless they swallow their pride and bow to Russia.