Quote from: TuxNut on April 05, 2014, 11:36:00 PM

Quote from: ZEITCOIN on April 05, 2014, 11:11:40 PM

Might be something to consider however I still feel it has applications to ensure that we keep our community strong and have this coin accepted everywhere we can.

Just a thought long term as I do see this industry being regulated and we need to be prepared for something like that.

See, for me, the first line will work against the second line.

Pretty much every coin is trying to be 'accepted everywhere', because "that's what currencies need", however, this isn't ABOUT being a typical currency, we're meant to be working to abolish money. If we're to stand out, we need to be US, not everyone else.

If we focus on just the organisations who are working towards the same goals as this 'movement', then they'll be more likely to pick up our coin, use and promote it and we'll then be able to better promote them and, in turn, those who believe in the same goals will start to acquire the coin as it'll have a use for what they believe in. Likewise, if we have the tx fees go to a pool to support sustainability projects, the USE of the coin will benefit the kinds of things such people believe in AND such projects benefit from the use by people who just treat it as anyother coin without even knowing they're helping to improve society.

Can stop anyone using the currency, greedy banks, greedy corporations and CEOs can all use it if they have the need/desire to do so, but we have the ability to not advertise the fact and thus avoid promoting them. If we just promote the GOOD charities, non-profit organisations, sustainability projects and the like, the bigger the currency becomes, the more attention these projects will get.

If we just try to be like every coin we'll fail miserably because the core members don't think like the capitalists and self interests, we'll be beaten at every turn, every decision will be compromised by our philosophies. The more we try to think like them, to compete on the same field, the more we'll lose our ideals, the more we'll attract 'that kind of person' into our ranks while driving out those who believe in the end objective and the coin will become a joke or so corrupt, it's got about as much "movement" about it as a million year old mountain.

I have been 'troubled' by what you've chosen to promote on Twitter and the OP several times, that you're caught up in the 'to the moon', get a big market cap to gain attention thinking that the right people will be attracted in.
We need to be trying to attract the right people FIRST and let the market cap take care of itself. There are millions of people in this world who roughly share our objectives, there's a HUGE market cap for charitable causes, there's no need to chase after EVERYTHING, there is a need to focused and ensure that at the heart of the coin, the ideals are the driving force FIRST AND FOREMOST!

I have far more to say on this matter, but it'll get REALLY long and I'll end up going off on multiple tangents as I often do (sorry about that). I think these things should be discussed much further on the Zeit forum where we can keep the discussion in one thread without the other distractions that occur here. Better still would be to have a select group of people with differing ideas about how to proceed be in either IRC or a Mumble convo. My vote goes to BeholdTheTrueWake for my side of the discussion, he's very much gained my respect and has more patience and self-control than I do.

I agree with what you are saying but you must see this from an open minded perspective these are the cores belief system and I am one of them. However being a closed minded sect will result in the same halted future that TZM will have which is the fact that we are trying to abolish the need for a fiat currency and to keep this a decentralized currency not become a group that shuns people for having different ideals. We need to accept peoples views and have open discussions about educating people on what we believe in, not ostracizing them because they don't feel exactly as we do.

I was very taken back with the way the global communicators not only handled the ZEIT coin adaptation by lying saying we had no contact and then making a decision with a few individuals and not saying hey this is out there if you want to take part you are free to do so.

We cannot become a governing body that makes decisions for the masses as that is absolutely what I am against. This is about freedom to share your ideals and beliefs without being criticized, even if they don't meet up with ours.

I always share anything positive about the coin on twitter even if it is to the moon type comments because it is positive nothing more.

We need to accept this fact and work within those guidelines and if we are accepting of all and encourage an open platform to educate everyone we will have much more success i believe.