Quote from: PX-Z on September 05, 2022, 08:39:42 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on September 05, 2022, 05:33:25 PM

Well, I have an opinion that I don't care if it's Chinese, or if it's from any other country, I can't deny that a casino that doesn't have KYC requirements catches my attention, but it's something very risky, usually they are casinos that don't they have certain licenses and their authenticity is really debatable and debatable due to the order of things. If we start to see, currently the most famous and most reliable casinos require KYC and this is undoubtedly a guarantee of being able to protect the security of our data and in turn our money because it falls within the framework of legality, and any claim or closure, because they respond for our money.

You are here in crypto space so don't blindly believe that having KYC'ed is equivalent to security of your balance and your personal data.
How can you explain those hacked casino, exchanges, or etc that require KYC? Did they protect you especially your privacy? No. They just tell you not to worry, and just apologize and they will work hard so it won't happen again, that's their line. Then later on you will receive lots os spam messages.
A hacked/leaked personal information is more harmful than getting robbed.

Even having KYC'ed doesn't mean make that you can withdraw your funds so easily. Look at those complaints in scam accusations, casino, exchanges that ask KYC then lately blocked the account.

Again, KYC can't guarantee you that they will protect you or help you when a hacked happens, or mostly when you are blocked in a casino.
KYC is just legality only, don't misunderstand KYC for anything.

You are right, what happens is that sometimes these platforms, both casinos and exchanges, require KYC for additional benefits, in 2018 I think that Binance still did not require a fully mandatory KYC, but I had a problem and I really needed the support of them so that I could have my coins in my wallet, and if I escalated my case and they told me that I had to complete a KYC to be able to have access to it and that my funds were restored, I felt that they were taking advantage of the situation, well no I had no choice but to do so and be able to accept those conditions, because I was not going to lose money, so they look for ways to force people in a very particular and diplomatic way, it is not surprising that government entities also treat casinos Similary.

Quote from: _act_ on September 17, 2022, 05:25:31 AM

Quote from: PX-Z on September 16, 2022, 11:39:09 PM

It's not all about receiving lots of phishing/spam emails or sms.
Worst case is your name is being used in any criminal act such as swindling or estafa, or simply identity thief. Since most of these leaked information are the one that is needed to apply in different agencies/stores/etc. which include your name, IDs, address, birthday, phone number, etc. These criminal acts can be applying a loan ^{(this is common)} in both private and government agencies, use your driver's license info and get road offense ^{(there are incidents like this too)}, you can be a victim of sms cloning using your info, then getting robbed again, and many more possible cases which will end up destroying your reputation.

It will be too late the time you discover that your name is used and labeled as criminal in the investigation bureau. And this will bring someone's life in misery, possible will end up being in debt. This cost you more than anything than those amount that got hacked from your exchange or casino balance's account.

All I could think about how KYC is very dangerous is that hackers can provide the data for other attackers in a way they can physically rob the victim. This is very possible which might even be happening. Another is the phishing attack which is very common. Another is the selling of the data which can be used in what you are talking about above. But as for this to lead to a case that the innocent person to be seen as a criminal of the offense he did not commit is what I do not know much about as I haven't heard about such cases before, but better to protect oneself from these kind of attack. But how? Most people are doing KYC. 90% or more people are doing KYC, only few people are not.

The greatest danger that people run is what you say, that this data can be leaked and can tempt against our homes, but currently that is already a risk that everyone wants to take, as I have said on other occasions, it will be very difficult to save the anonymity and privacy, data and everything related to people there will no longer be such a right, then there will come a time when these data no longer matter to people, I think this is something that many should already be taking into account, our data can leak even from the banks themselves, the big thefts come from those data provided by the same entities that work there.

Quote from: darewaller on September 17, 2022, 09:03:30 PM

Quote from: _act_ on September 16, 2022, 07:41:29 PM

Quote from: PX-Z on September 05, 2022, 08:39:42 PM

A hacked/leaked personal information is more harmful than getting robbed.

What could be so worse than getting robbed? But I understood what you are talking about. KYC is extremely dangerous, that is true. If the data is leaked and hackers know about it, no one knows who could be the victims of a phishing attack, even if someone is able to avoid those types of online attackers, how about physical attackers. You are not wrong.

People should know that KYC does not mean safety nor guarantee security, only the advantage is that if someone have access to its email and forgot his or her password, he can be able to easily reset its password and be able to have access to its account.

Phishing attacks are I think easier to avoid. There are signs to know them like if the site has a weird url or a typo than the original site you are going to visit then that's an example of a phishing attempt. Physical attackers on the other hand are unavoidable because you will be attacked directly and threatened that if you don't obey on what they want you will get hurt.

I think when that scenarios occur, it's better if you can just surrender your stuff as life is more important. We can still be able to report them later on and clear out our names if our identity or kyc is misused. @the OP, have you checked the Chinese boards here? Since what you are looking for is a Chinese website.

Yes, you are right, phishing attacks are easy to see when the person has a little knowledge about URLs and some computer networks, while there are many people who do fall, one option that they used a lot was through the Internet. google searches, Well, they put the same URL but in the form of advertising, so a person who does not have much experience in managing the Internet can completely fall for a scam, so these things must be emphasized, and it is incredible, but even people despite all the information and all the precautions that are taken, continue to fall. The case of pshishing is very extensive, and more so when it comes to casinos, crypto.