Quote from: Fredomago on September 14, 2022, 05:44:20 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on September 13, 2022, 03:48:59 AM

That is very interesting, from what I see Ancajas needs much more for things to go well for him and he can recover many things, I don't know but I think he should do everything possible to win, and the way Martinez describes it he is clear and will not make it easy for him, Martinez's preparation has been very strong and he has made a lot of effort, nothing more than the fact that he can score a victory over Ancajas is something that can boost his career, for me Martinez has found in boxing the professional path that life is showing him, is something that not everyone sees and some give up, I see that Martinez has a lot of spirit in his fights.

If Martinez wants to maintain the hypes in his career, winning is the only option, while in the other side it's also what Ancajas trying t achieved bringing back his belt and a possible to move up and challenge much bigger fighters in the next division. I like that idea if both fighters are doing everything to have that edge over another, the winner here most likely will be the fans that will enjoy the fight inside the ring.

Quote from: Baofeng on September 14, 2022, 12:59:02 PM

^ Last time I checked the odds are still not listed on our favorite crypto sport bookies.

And like fights that are lesser known, or like the first one, the odds were just released days before the fight itself, so I'm expecting the same. Nevertheless, the fight is just less than a month, and I'm speculating that training for both camps are in full swing and hopefully Ancajas weight issues could have been approached differently by his camps in this rematch so that there will be no excuses, win or lose on his side.

He needs to maintain his weight while doing extra trainings and sparrings, if he wanted to win over Martinez he needs to condition and make sure that he really prepared both physically and mentally, he's still young and if the goal is to win more titles or have a much better life like Pacquiao and Donaire, he needs to win this fight and reclaimed his belt.

What apsa is that Martengaz has all his hopes pinned on this fight, he knows that if he wins he can be crowned one of the best boxers of this 2022, and it is obvious that many more fights and more propositions will rain down on him, in terms In general, he can make money quickly, the boxing business is very lucrative when he is good, then everything depends on him, of course in this case Ancajas has to make a great effort to be able to do something very hard and forceful, he has to take away all that desire for triumphalism that Matinez may be doing, and obviously Ancajas is one of the most famous boxers and it could mean being his springboard.

Quote from: Baofeng on September 28, 2022, 10:33:35 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 28, 2022, 09:54:29 PM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 28, 2022, 12:51:29 PM

Overtraining? I don't think it's a big issue though, I guess the real problem is the weight issue because boxers know if they are undertrained or overtrained. Anyway, it's already over, this rematch, we will see how Ancajas will make the right adjustments.

I would agree that there might be a weight issue in the first encounter that contributed to Ancajas' loss but let us also give credit to Martinez as he really performed very well that night that he captured that unexpected belt that he has now.

Yes, Martinez is also a good fighter no question about it, and he caught Ancajas with the weight issues so he should get the full credit for that big upset. He was the underdog but it didn't deter his performance and on the contrary he was very proud of his achievement so let's leave it like that.

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 28, 2022, 09:54:29 PM

Less than 10 days before this fight but still, my favorite bookies have not put the betting odds yet on their site, will come back three days before the fight as that's the usual time they put odds on unpopular boxers.

The usual mate, we will have to wait till sport bookies listed this fight together with other options. This fight for us is one of the most anticipated so I don't think that they are going to missed this fight.

You are right because for me martinez has done a phenomenal job, everyone already knows that martinez is a cartoonist who has had a lot of relevance in terms of good performance, but now with everything that has happened to ancajas it is something that makes him quite good his career, in any case the fight is for October 8 and it has to be fulfilled in any way, personally I would like to have the opportunity to see Martinez win, because the spirit he has for now is very good, I have seen it in some of his statements and the truth is that he feels very confident, I think he is very confident in his technique and that is something that I like, very few boxers have so much confidence, this rematch promises, the pumice does not want to leave a bad taste mouth more.

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Quote from: harizen on September 27, 2022, 11:58:10 PM

Quote from: Japinat on September 27, 2022, 03:20:04 PM

Two factors why Ancajas lost from the fight, lack of training because of the sudden replacement and second is he is not in good state where he can give a good fight to Martinez.

We should stop saying the sudden replacement of the opponent is one of the reasons why Jerwin Ancajas lost. That was a sh*t reason for a champion like him. On the other hand, Martinez is also on the same as he suddenly becomes a challenger and will face the champion.

Both of them have the same time to do the preparations.

It's clear and is also mentioned by his camp that Ancajas is not really in his shape on that fight because of overtraining to reach the required weight. That's it.

Yes, it's not that Martinez is a replacement fighter, it really boils down to

a) his weight issues
b) overtraining

So both really contributed on his performance and they admit to it afterwards. Yeah, they might be thrown off a bit by Martinez as a late replacement but he could have perform better and win the fight if those issues didn't arises in his camp.

Overtraining? I don't think it's a big issue though, I guess the real problem is the weight issue because boxers know if they are undertrained or overtrained. Anyway, it's already over, this rematch, we will see how Ancajas will make the right adjustments.

I'm not the one who said it, you can read what his trainer has said here,

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He suspects they may have over trained Ancajas while preparing for Martinez.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/08/17/22/boxing-what-adjustments-ancajas-is-making-for-next-bout

So I don't think you can argue on what his trainer says?

And besides, I can only speculate that they have seen the weight issue already and did try to compensate and losing those extra baggage by doing lots of drills resulting to another factor that affected his performance.

Well I think that the nutritionist's problem got out of hand, Ancajas was also very much to blame for me, at this point a problem like this should not mean that it affects her performance or anything, the truth seems to me something painful, I don't know now if this is well seen by the federation and by all its organizers, the business model that this sport represents is very large and I think it needs to be more serious in its contenders, these things should not happen, also I do not know if in The rules stipulate that a boxer who is overweight and who violates the conditions should be sanctioned?

The news in the Philippines about Anchos is many, everyone has their possibilities placed on it, I do not have all the channels available, but thanks to YouTube you can get good information:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA8bByDAooE

Everyone in the Philippines bets on his great compatriot, will he be able to against "Puma" Martinez?