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Well, we all know that the current situation in the world is very diverse, only those that can offer certain services are the ones that can provide well-being and be free from wars and prohibitions, although this World Cup in Qatar is going to be very full of many fundamentals, there are nations that still have problems, nothing more than the problem that exists in Europe with Gas, with everything that they have in RUSSIA from the problem with oil, the different prohibitions that exist, that all these political problems have reached the world, more have been announced things with probable drums to war, all this has somehow affected.
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All I want is to separate sports from politics and equal treatment for all. I understand why Russia was suspended from FIFA and IOC. What I don't understand is their failure to do the same to Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

Quote from: Polkeins on October 05, 2022, 01:52:04 PM

This has been always about money and money has always decided everything, but only if it is someone's "good" money, or to put it even more simply, if in Washington someone approves or at least does not disapprove your moves, then you can do whatever you want. Double standards are a disgusting topic, but Qatar is just a student, nothing more. he didn't come up with these rules, but Qatar just learned how to use them competently.

If the US president had some balls, this would never happen in the first place. Just a few hours back, the OPEC announced another massive reduction in the daily oil production quota, as they want to push the prices to $120-130 per barrel. This is despite Biden going to Saudi Arabia to beg in front of Prince Salman. The Americans are queueing in front of Saudi Arabia and Qatar with a begging bowl. Criticizing these countries for their human rights record is out of question.

What you say is very true, but we must remember that this is a world where those who have the most power are those who manage things at another level, obviously these countries have a lot of power and apart from power they have a lot of money, and with money anything is possible, in fact this will be a world cup where QATAR has a lot to offer and things that for some people are new, it will also be full of many technological advances and that can make a difference, I personally do not agree that a problem of this geopolitics is reflected in sports, because no athlete is to blame for what their rulers decide, and they are the ones who end up paying, so it does not seem fair to me, if there should be zero politics, it is in sports, and unfortunately that is not It is possible, also because it interferes with the plans of business models that are already established.

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I'm not completely sure, but as far as I know, at least in recent history, it has never happened that the host of the World Cup did not pass the group and not advance to the knockout stage of the competition.
However, due to the quality of their team, Qatar does not deserve to play in this World Cup and I believe that they have a minimal chance to pass the group and reach the knockout stage of the competition.
If they aren't the hosts, we certainly wouldn't be watching them at this world championship, just as we haven't seen them at previous world championships either.

Yeah, it's a huge advantage to host the world cup. But the thing is that the previous world cups have been usually held in countries in which they have a strong team to begin with, such as Brazil, Spain, Germany, England, Uruguay, and so on.

This is probably the first time that it's going to be held in a relatively weaker country. Maybe Korea-Japan 2002 could be comparable up to a point, and even then they managed to go past the first stage, which has been their all time best performance for both Korea and Japan.

We'll have to see if the boost for playing local is enough for Qatar.

I wouldn't really compare South Korea and Japan with Qatar, because Korea and Japan have a much longer football tradition, they have invested much more in football, and they have a much larger population and a much larger football base.
Just look at their results in the last world cups, Korea and Japan often make it to the knockout stages of world cups and achieving great results.
Ok, it seems that Qatar is currently achieving good results in friendly matches, but does anyone seriously think that they would have qualified for this World Cup if they did not have the direct right to participate as hosts?

No, of course. No one holding that illusion. Before, Qatar isn't on the same level as some of the MENA teams in the region. If not for the host right, they wouldn't even pass against other strong teams like Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. Qatar recently got good only because of the massive preparation for this World Cup. They got a lot of new players under their national team, buying and transferring left and right just for the stake to put up a good face as a host. I'm damn sure after this World Cup is over, Qatar will fall back to its place, behind stronger teams in MENA. Money can only buy them some temporary victories before and a bit after this World Cup.

I will also jump the bandwagon of people saying NO, and if I could swap them for another team then I would have gladly use it to bring back Italy. Furthermore do you’ll think that it’ll be a nice opportunity to make some quick bucks while wagering against them, and even though I’m expecting super low odds I yet feel that we can earn some good bucks on their matches if we get lucky.

Well, you are not the only person who would like Italy to be in the World Cup. In fact, when Chile made the claim to remove Ecuadra from the World Cup and classify them, the ones that were going to have the least in mind to classify them were the Chileans, the ones that mostly had good options to enter in that case, for points and classification it was Italy, but nevertheless, when we think that it is a quota for a South American team, seeing that there are so many changes in FIFA that they have made, it would not be Too bad they made that kind of decision, because now FIFA has a lot of freedom to do what is best for them.

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Quote from: blue_hurricanger on October 18, 2022, 10:12:26 AM

Before, Qatar isn't on the same level as some of the MENA teams in the region. If not for the host right, they wouldn't even pass against other strong teams like Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. Qatar recently got good only because of the massive preparation for this World Cup. They got a lot of new players under their national team, buying and transferring left and right just for the stake to put up a good face as a host. I'm damn sure after this World Cup is over, Qatar will fall back to its place, behind stronger teams in MENA. Money can only buy them some temporary victories before and a bit after this World Cup.

Here I agree about this all Qatar is surely having good quality, and they are participating in this world cup just because of host but keep one thing remember right now they are spending good amount on their domestic set up, and they have services of many world-class coaches and players which is surely improving quality and having good soccer structure which is going to help them in future for having better quality and skilled players which are going to help them for having better results.

Few weeks back there was an offer for Ronaldo to join Qatar club surely this was one of the biggest offer, but he refused, and another big point Xavi was also coach in Qatar club before joining Barcelona, so they are hiring top quality players and coaches for better development, and they have enough money for doing things like these which is surely a big positive point for them soccer in Qatar even after this world cup.

Well eventually this is a good opportunity for Qatar to have a great growth as a team, if I knew about CR7, but it was obvious that he was going to reject him, for me there are other things that can happen, the World Cup could be used as a springboard to that they can have a better league and a better national team, at the moment Qatar can have an accelerated growth in its players, but of course it cannot be compared with the level of Brazil or a team like Argentina, Portugal, however all the players must integrate very well, so that at the time of the debut and their games they have an acceptable performance.