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Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]
by
DaRude
on 07/10/2022, 21:46:26 UTC
Lol kyivpost really? Did you just give up on any attempts at finding any resemblance of an unbiased source? Sounds like desperate attempt at a damage control, could we get a full transcript of the speech in its original, shouldn't be too hard to translate and see what was really said

The source is not Kyiv Post, the source is the president's office.

Given that Ukraine doesn't have nukes and Russia does and Putler never did any "damage control" on his threats to use them, the accusation that Zelensky is starting a nuclear war is about as absurd as all the other Kremlin fantasies.


Now you're playing dumb and pretending to not even realize that Z was talking about what NATO should do? Not a good look

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"Как это было до 24 февраля — превентивные удары. Чтобы они знали. что с ними будет, если они используют [ядерное оружие], а не наоборот: ждать ядерных ударов России, чтобы потом сказать "Ах, ты так? Ну вот получай от нас", — подчеркнул президент. — Пересмотреть применение своего давления — вот что, я считаю, должно делать НАТО: пересмотреть порядок применения".
https://focus.ua/voennye-novosti/532089-nato-dolzhno-nanesti-po-rossii-preventivnye-udary-zelenskiy-video

Quote from: Google Translate
"Like it was before February 24 - pre-emptive strikes. So that they know what will happen to them if they use [nuclear weapons], and not vice versa: wait for Russian nuclear strikes, then to say," Oh, are you so? Well, take it from us," the President stressed. "Reconsider the application of its pressure - that's what I think NATO should do: reconsider the application."

Best argument i can see here is perhaps google translate got it wrong too?

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“I once again appeal to the international community, as it was before February 24: preemptive strikes so that they [Russians] know what will happen to them and not vice versa.”
https://www.kyivpost.com/russias-war/zelensky-reference-to-preemptive-strikes-forces-staff-to-clarify-statement.html

Did Kyivpost straight up misquoted Z and just removed insinuation to nukes "if they use [nuclear weapons]" Grin or did google translate added it? And then conveniently removed the ending of and not vice versa wait for a nuke and then say take it from us? Conveniently loosing more context?

You realize that you don't have to keep Z a saint and agree with every thing that he says, you can hold on to any remaining credibility you have left and just not comment, or agree that he made a mistake being under all that pressure etc... there are options besides everything Z says is holier than thou