...In a nuclear war there is no winner. The first strike is guaranteed to be followed by a response (it could even not be a nuke, but certainly proportional and devastating)... and from there nobody knows...
Can we stop pretending that instead of protecting its members NATO countries signed up to start a nuclear Armageddon for any tactical nuclear blast in any country around the globe? I realize that that's what UA has been desperately asking for but literally no NATO general or leader of ANY NATO country agreed to anything close to that. That's not how article 5 works
RU nuke attack in UA != RU nuke attack on NATO everyone knows what happens if US/EU escalates and sends tanks to UA.
What happens is that Russians start retreating. 200+ tanks have already been sent from the EU and NATO to Ukraine so it's not a hypothetical question like you're trying to make it sound.
As Ukraine pleads for tanks, the West holds back
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Ukraine is asking urgently for modern tanks to help their forces seize on rapid gains in the northeast and take additional territory, but the West is dragging its feet
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The tanks have shot to the top of Kyiv’s wish list
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The request took on new urgency this week after Vladimir Putin announced that he would mobilize 300,000 additional troops for the fight in Ukraine, a major escalation of the campaign.
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The more modern American-made M-1 Abrams and German-made Leopard tanks would add a powerful punch that could help Kyiv’s forces capture and hold more ground, compared to the old Soviet-era tanks they currently operate, say experts and Ukrainian advisers
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But Germany has repeatedly rejected Ukraine’s request for the tanks
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“It’s top of their list now, it didn’t used to be,” said one congressional staffer familiar with the request
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One adviser to the Ukrainian government said “the Ukrainians definitely want the Leopards” and have been frustrated that Germany has denied the permits to Spain and other countries that were willing to donate them
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German defense company Rheinmetall also requested government approval to export 88 Leopard tanks to Ukraine, but Berlin refused to grant permission.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/22/ukraine-requests-american-tanks-counteroffensive-00058303This means that support for Ukraine is being dropped and deescalation can finally begin.
Putin can deescalate any time he wants. Until then nothing is being dropped.
Of course this is not good for UA government and they're well aware of this, ironically the only way out of this for them at this stage is a full nuke stand off
Funny how you kremlinists fantasize about nukes and yet are looking for ways to blame the other side for it. Just admit it that the conventional war is lost and get out of there while you can still save your country. Nuking Ukraine (and Russia in the process) is not going to win the war.
This symbolism of blowing up a bridge with an
VBIED supposedly on Putins birthday feels like a desperate last ditch attempt to get RU to react, but looks like cooler heads are prevailing. It happened around 6am so appears that caution was taken to limit civilian casualties, this gives me hope that there won't be any mass scale IEDs on Russia to really push for a reply.
Blowing up Russian supply lines is an important ongoing project for Ukrainian military and unlikely to have anything to do with desperation or some nuclear fantasies. But there is no Biden speech and no tweets from Polish politicians on the subject so your standards of proof are slipping. Are you sure the truck wasn't carrying sugar from Ryazan?
This symbolism of blowing up a bridge with an
VBIED supposedly on Putins birthday feels like a desperate last ditch attempt to get RU to react, but looks like cooler heads are prevailing.
What are you talking about. You know Russia literally invaded and is occupying parts of Ukraine right now, right? This is what happens when one country invades another country on it's border and attempts long term occupation despite failing to conquer the other countries military or being capable of both occupying the other country and defending it's own infrastructure. Shit starts blowing up on both sides of the border.
And anyone that is genuinely outraged that Ukraine would behave this way, or feels like Russia is in any way the innocent victim is delusional.
...Now I remember words of drunk clown Dimon Medvedev about judgement day if Ukraine will attack Crimea. Or nothing didn't happened again?...