Quote from: dkbit98 on October 17, 2022, 08:28:03 PM

Try telling that to all the people who are using shitcoins like ethereum, that now have 52% of all blocks being OFAC compliance, it's growing all the time according to mevwatch.info, and now it has built in censorship for transactions!

Shitcoins gonna be shit. A mining pool (MARA) tried this OFAC compliant nonsense on bitcoin once, and it lasted a grand total of about 10 blocks before they had to reverse their decision. As it should be.

Quote from: dkbit98 on October 17, 2022, 08:28:03 PM

I sure don't like this, but closing my eyes won't change the fact that people can run into problems if someone catches them with coins coming from some hacks and exploits.

People can run in to problems if they use centralized platforms which treat bitcoin as non-fungible based on entirely arbitrary guesswork. It has nothing to do with the bitcoin themselves, and everything to do with the centralized platform.

Quote from: dkbit98 on October 17, 2022, 08:28:03 PM

One solution is to stop using centralized exchanges and services, that will reduce potential problems, but you can't avoid them totally.

You can absolutely avoid them totally. I've been buying/selling/trading/using/saving/spending bitcoin for years. I'd wager I'm in the top 1% of bitcoin users in terms of actually using bitcoin as a currency, almost daily. Every single one of my coins has been mixed, coinjoined, or otherwise obfuscated. I have literally never once had a problem with someone refusing one of my coins or demanding KYC or any other such nonsense, precisely because I refuse to do business with anyone who attacks and undermines bitcoin's very existence by treating it as non-fungible.

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on August 31, 2022, 07:36:13 AM

Here's an analogy:

I am a merchant. You want to buy some things from me. You try to pay with cash. I say "I cannot see the full history of this cash, so I refuse your money". So instead, you tap your debit card. I say "I cannot accept this money without knowing the full history of it". I demand access to your bank account so I can see where all your money comes from. You leave and come back with your bank statements, but I don't like what I see, so I refuse payment. You then try to pay with PayPal. I demand access to your PayPal account so I can see where all your money comes from. You unlock your PayPal account on your phone and hand it over for me to look at. This PayPal money looks OK to me, so I accept it. You then leave the shop and start telling all your friends "Make sure when you shop there you have all your bank statements with you so the merchant can look at them, and make sure none of your money comes from anywhere except your employer, since they can't trace those funds." Your friends all look at you like you are crazy, and then simply choose to shop with the merchant next door who doesn't do any of this nonsense.

Whenever this situation comes up, with the discussion of centralized exchanges and privacy, it always seems that the default position is "Sacrifice all your privacy and let people spy on you so that you can use a centralized exchange". In any other financial situation that would be seen as utterly crazy, as I've just shown above, but for some reason with bitcoin people just accept this nonsense? The problem here is not mixers, or coinjoins, or Monero, or any other privacy technique - the problem here is centralized exchanges. If you don't want a centralized exchange to seize your coins, then don't use a centralized exchange. There are plenty of decentralized exchanges to choose from.

The logical position when faced with entities which are stealing coins is not "I should bend over backwards and sacrifice everything to hopefully mean they don't steal my coins!", but rather to simply not use the entity which is stealing coins.

Quote from: Timothy Snyder

Most of the power of authoritarianism is freely given. In times like these, individuals think ahead about what a more repressive government will want, and then offer themselves without being asked.