Quote from: kawetsriyanto on October 20, 2022, 10:45:17 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on October 20, 2022, 03:58:00 PM

Everything you say is unprovable, it's a matter of taste. For example, who would have thought that Zidane is good enough to lead Real Madrid and win the Champions League 3 times in a row? The same goes for the Mourinho-Guardiola comparisons. For example, I don't even consider it proven that Guardiola is a better than average coach - he had prime Barcelona, prime Bayern and prime City (endless budget, most expensive club in the world). Can anyone say that he achieved something special with these clubs? Not even close.

What I should prove to you? Huh

Are you trying to say Guardiola never achieved something special with Barcelona, Bayern, and City because they have strong squads and big money? Dude, do you ever see PSG? They have a strong squad, they have endless money too. But why they cannot win UCL? It is because they never hired a top coach like Zidane or Guardiola. Having a strong squad and endless money will be nothing if they are managed by a bad coach. Guardiola many times proved that he is a top coach, he won many prestigious titles until the last season. I don't need to explain it a lot, just checked his records yourself: https://www.transfermarkt.com/pep-guardiola/erfolge/trainer/5672.

Lol

I'm not trying to say this because it's a fact. Guardiola does not have a single achievement with a club that would be slightly lower than the cosmic level. Barcelona of the era of the gold team of Spain, Bayern of Jupe Heikens and City with an endless budget. With all these clubs, he has mediocre records (lower records would be a complete failure). And we don't know (and obviously never will) what Guardiola could have won if he had coached some not top club.

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Dude, do you ever see PSG? They have a strong squad, they have endless money too. But why they cannot win UCL? It is because they never hired a top coach like Zidane or Guardiola. Having a strong squad and endless money will be nothing if they are managed by a bad coach.

Dude, do you have some kind of split personality? Or you yourself don’t notice that you just put Guardiola down because he can’t win the Champions League with City (and he couldn’t with prime Bayern) Grin