Quote from: tvbcof on Today at 07:00:04 AM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on October 30, 2022, 06:07:44 PM

Quote from: tvbcof on October 30, 2022, 11:52:44 AM

You argued there was no war, just like Putin. "It's all just fear mongering by the West."

This is a valid observation and did happen in the first few days or weeks of the 'special military operation' as well as long before. For many years we've been inundated with fake stories that the Russians have crossed into Ukraine, or are amassing and are going to do so in a few minutes. ...

Fake, you mean like not having to irregular army corps fighting under RF command in the Donbas? "That type of fake"? Or is it more like the RF did not send troops to invade Crimea in 2014 - troops which would not even say who did they represent or on whose behalf were there?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas_(20142022)#:~:text=Russia%20officially%20recognized%20the%20DPR,large-scale%20invasion%20of%20Ukraine.

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while other Western and Ukrainian officials called it a Russian "stealth invasion".[39] Russia's official position on the presence of Russian forces in the Donbas has been vague; while official bodies have denied the presence of "regular armed forces" in Ukraine, it has on many occasions confirmed the presence of "military specialists", along with other euphemisms, usually accompanied by an argument that Russia "was forced" to deploy them to "defend the Russian-speaking population."[

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Despite this, the area remained a war zone, with dozens of soldiers and civilians killed each month.[49] In 2017, on average one Ukrainian soldier died in combat every three days,[50] with an estimated 6,000 Russian and 40,000 separatist troops in the region.[51][52] By the end of 2017, the OSCE observatory mission had counted around 30,000 individuals in military gear crossing from Russia to the Donbas at the two border checkpoints it was allowed to monitor.[53] The OSCE has also documented many cases of military convoys crossing from Russia into the occupied Donbas on dirt roads, away from official border crossings and usually at night.[54]

You are a cynic. Anything you post here is pure propaganda and disinformation.