Quote from: af_newbie on Today at 03:02:23 AM

Quote from: suchmoon on Today at 12:59:07 AM

Quote from: paxmao on Today at 12:27:43 AM

I am waiting to see if Ukraine consolidates or intends to actually cross the Dnipro. It would be an extreme strategic risk to do so, but I am not sure if this is a full collapse or just a disorderly retreat.

There is a say in Spanish, "a enemigo que huye, puente de plata" - "give a silver lined bridge to a running enemy". My take is that Ukraine has renounced to damage Kherson even further while also renouncing to capture a few thousand RF soldiers. Would that have been possible? Would that have been a decisive hit to the RF army?

I doubt Ukrainians need to cross Dnipro there near Kherson, way too complicated now with bridges being essentially destroyed. They will probably want to HIMARS the juicy stuff on the left bank (like bridges/ammo depots/etc) as far as they can reach to reduce the risk for shelling on Kherson, but then they can move some troops to other areas, like Luhansk, and encourage Russians to make another good will gesture.

I am sure Russian commanders will find another Chornobaivka close to the front lines and use it over and over.

Nepotism and corruption in the Russian army is what helped Ukrainians win this war.

The Russian command structure is non-existent. Bunch of alcoholics who only know how to send untrained soldiers to their deaths AND level
everything in front of them (including Russian soldiers and equipment). The pullback from Kherson was a smart move as they had the best
of the best soldiers there and were losing them daily. I have to give them that. They should have done it right after the Kharkiv offensive.
The old man probably refused and it took more than a month of convincing him to reach this decision.

All other front lines will collapse sooner or later. It is just a meat grinder at this point.

Logistics win wars. The Crimean bridge will be taken out, then the land bridge's front line will collapse.

As losses will mount, pressure to replace Putin will grow, and he will be forced to withdraw the remaining forces and declare a victory.

That is how this will end, with Putin or without him. The end will be the same. Ukraine will get all its lands as of 1991.

Oh certainly, the worst enemy of the RF army is the culture and leader ship of the RF army. The tactics that work for countries that have less support and less resources, like basically flattening any city to the ground and mass-graving population into submission, have failed against the determination and quite decent organisation of the Ukrainian army. I hope you are right, the strategy that has worked in the southwest may be used in other areas. The area near the Dnipro was particularly

With time, it is possible that better analysis of the battles and tactical situations becomes available. I am personally very interested in understanding tactics and strategy and wars (useless and detestable) are possibly the ultimate expression of these. The war in Ukraine will be much more documented that any other war before.

The doings of the RF chief psychos will probably be in the same bag as the allied frontal assaults in WW I, the US presence in Afghanistan and the Romanov's army in WWI, Stalingrad for the Nazi army and countless historical strategic mistakes from Craso in Parthia to Napoleon coming back from his exile.