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Quote from: TwitchySeal on November 09, 2022, 11:51:41 PM

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Someone should send them a link to be.open, branko and tvbcof's posts from this thread, see what the power of positivity can do.

I've been tied up with other things when reliable info about the West side of the river abandonment stuff came in. As usual, it looks like probably a fairly brilliant move which I would probably agree with more and more were I more aware of the background info. Beyond that, it looks characteristically well executed with minimal losses of men and equipment on the Russian side. Hat's off to 'General Armageddon'.

Honestly, when Russia began offering resettlement with generous options to civilian evacuees from Kherson, it was a pretty big clue that the writing was on the wall.

When the NATO weapons hit the dam it pretty much sealed the deal. Now, with Kherson crawling with Nazi's and those civilians who sided with Russia safely evacuated (under NaZiocon fire predictably enough), Russia could do the dam first at a time of their choosing if it's a forgone conclusion, or in better circumstances allow it to exist as long as it supplies water to Crimea.

As for the nuke plant, it's nothing but the worlds biggest dirty bomb and certainly not something to let children like Zelensj and the NaZiocons play around with. Especially after their recent history of crazy creepy tactics including shelling said plant. I hope for everyone's sake that the Russians decommission the thing and get the spent fuel safely back into Russia. Then rig it for a full and permanent demolition on the off chance that it might become necessary.

If Russia ever does 'liberate' the whole of Kherson and the rest of the Black Sea seaboard it will probably have to be from the North. Maybe as an extension of operations to liberate the rest of the Donbass and Zapherwhatever. Best would be if free and fair elections gave the peeps the choice. The Russians would have to pressure the 'Western Democracies' pretty damn hard to get them to agree to the use of 'Democracy' to resolve the Southern East Ukraine issues though.

A look back at when Russia lost the battle of Kiev and you framed it as a victory because they were able to focus on the "permanent taking of places like Kherson. which they do intend to keep":

Quote from: tvbcof on May 25, 2022, 07:19:49 AM

Any semi-competant analyst can see that Russia had no interest in 'taking' Kiev. Not ever, and not to this day. It was obviously a tactic to tie up Ukrainians who would otherwise make the permanent taking of places like Kherson. which they do intend to keep, more costly and complicated.

The Russians can vaporize reddittard 'mercenaries' by the hundreds at will flying munitions right over the heads of the 'visting dignitaries' (working on their money laundering schemes in perfect safety) in Kiev. That tells me that this whole thing is largely choreographed and pre-planned, and all sides are a party to the show.

That said, I do suspect that it was supposed to be more of a show and less of a real fight than the Jewkrainian actors and stage managers were expecting. Russia might have played them somewhat in this respect.

Act-II will be Poland taking back some historically Polish territory in the West. That much was probably pre-planned and something that the Jewkrainian govt in Kiev started out with as a goal and have worked diligently to set up. It's why the tactics are designed to whack as many Ukrianians who can possibly hold a gun as possible. Russian couldn't care less what happens over there and their gains in the East will probably be solidified by an agreement to not interfere with Polish operations in the Western parts of the country. That, and perhaps not taking Odessa. In other words, leaving the neo-pale-of-settlement sea-port access for their 'bigger Israel' project.