Quote from: n0nce on December 05, 2022, 09:03:08 PM

What could they say to make you think otherwise, though? It's neither possible to prove for anyone here that you or I are or are not state actors, either, right?

Fair question. I'm not entirely sure. Maybe something like "we are not related to or employed by any world government, our extremely high start-up capital came from XYZ source, we made X in donations this year, we think we have never been investigated or indicted or admonished by LE because of XYZ..." Doesn't really matter, it's just a theory anyway.

Quote from: dkbit98 on December 05, 2022, 09:58:56 PM

You are not asking anyone, but you are obviously seeking attention with all your posts, that is probably some mental issues you have after losing big part of your wealth investing in shitcoin scam.
Sorry about that, and I hope you find help you need, but you won't find that help on twitter Tongue

Sorry you didn't get all the attention you wanted Roll Eyes

I find this confusing and unnecessarily aggressive. I'm not sure how or what I lost is relevant - we're discussing a mixer; let's keep it on-topic if possible. FWIW, I wish from the bottom of my heart that I got much less attention, because at times it can be overwhelming. For example, when I initially posted the ChipMixer thread, I didn't at all expect it to blow up across Twitter, be picked up by news outlets, or for me to be contacted by a lawyer looking for expert witnesses for a separate bitcoin mixer legal case.

I can't help but notice that you, too, are being paid by ChipMixer. This doesn't mean your points are useless, but you could at least tone down the ad hominems & emotionally defensive behaviour. It comes across as paid shill-y, even though it may well not be.

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on December 05, 2022, 10:23:02 PM

It's likely the reason that Tornado was crucified is because the developers were publicly known, and ChipMixer skates along because they are not.

The Tornado Cash contract itself is under OFAC sanctions. Any sort of interaction with the mixer is now a legal risk. Similar measures could have been put in place for known ChipMixer deposits given their similar user profile (not condoning this, just pointing it out), but the government really doesn't seem to care, which was one of my points. The contract itself can't be doxed.

Quote from: DireWolfM14 on December 05, 2022, 10:23:02 PM

Since ChipMixer has been around for 5 years, and I don't know of any incident where use of ChipMixer has been used to prosecute anyone, I can claim that as evidence they are not a honeypot.

The way these things normally work is, to keep the honeypot going, they make up a plausible excuse for how they found the criminal based on a link they found later, thus they don't have to disclose the ace up their sleeve.

To be 100% clear, this theory (very explicitly labelled as such for the avoidance of doubt) is solely my personal opinion, posted on my personal Twitter account, and I don't mean to offend ChipMixer, their users, or their advertisers. I do not expect ChipMixer to prove anything (you can't prove a negative anyway). To me (again, in my personal opinion), the story stacks up perfectly, and I've tried to explain my reasoning in the thread as clearly as I can, but it remains an opinion and you are all obviously welcome to have your own. Sorry for any inconvenience I may have caused to anyone in the thread.