Quote from: naira on Today at 08:12:48 PM

Quote from: franky1 on Today at 07:58:23 PM

we all understand that. but instead of just saying "them the rules" or more preciously " Indonesia is a majority Islamic country and that is their rule." do you ever question the reason and the need of the rule. what does it protect or prevent. and are those rules still fit for purpose. or have those original rules been extremitised outside their origin purpose where by it now affects many things outside of their base purpose

i can understand sex before marriage can be troublesome for the young that are not ready for a sexual life.

i can understand that cheating breaks up a marriage

but when 2 adults of mentally ready age, fall inlove. having to get them to be married before they can find out if they can 'fit' together. enforces unwanted marriages. where your stuck with someone that does not satisfy you

Isn't it better to prevent than nothing? I know that everything is run according to the principles of a country. But if the rules only focus on the economic sector without paying attention to other sectors, what is the main basis? Indonesia has other economic resources, but that doesn't mean we don't appreciate foreign tourists who come with their culture. Visiting Bali, all tourists are greeted with what they are accustomed to, but not in all parts of Indonesia.

"better than nothing?"
no one said remove all laws. its about tailoring laws to the current modern lifestyles and need of a population

EG if the main premiss of no sex outside of a wedding was for 2 things
reduce prostitution/child sex trafficking. instead aof a broad rule that stops any sex unless its inside of wedlock. set rules for prostitution and child abuse. that way it still meets the goal without limiting other lifestyle things that people do want to experience.

imagine it this way.. imagine your a woman. you meet a guy you have a crush, you flirt you kiss but dont do anything secual until wedding day. that night you find out he as a little nubby that does nothing for you secually. or he has a massive wang that hurts every time.. and now your stuck for the next 60 years with a guy that cant satisfy you. so you end up cheating anyway..

did the law really solve anything? nope.

instead have laws that meet the needs. stopping child exploitation and prostitution and STD spreading. but allow consenting adults to explore and find their soulmate that fits and satisfies them to then marry and be happy for 60 years to not need to cheat on or catch STD via other partners.

its not about a rule for sake of rule. or a outlaw if rule doesnt fit.. its about the right rules for the right reasons