Quote from: Cryptotourist on Today at 12:57:55 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 09:35:32 AM

You believe that your examples are the same? You've got logical fallacy (or would it be called analogy-choosing deficiencies?) issues. No?

No I dont, I just dont appreciate your uie pooie jumping onto any kind of SOMA prediction, and trying to make it look extra silly.
Its silly by default, even if it turns out true.

Great. We are making progress here.

I'm saying that you are no fun, and you are saying that I am no fun.

Quote from: Cryptotourist on Today at 12:57:55 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 09:35:32 AM

Why get so emotional?

Because Im a Bitcoiner, and you called me a no coiner. Makes sense? No?

We are not going to actually know the status of any other member, and why does it even matter if I believe that you might be a low coiner or a no coiner or accuse you of such? I might be wrong, I might be trolling or I might even be exaggerating such position in order to get an emotional response out of you.. or maybe I am negotiating?

Each of us is able to proceed to characterize the words and seeming actions of other members based on categories that we might believe such words and actions appear to fit...

What's wrong with that?

For the record, I doubt that you are a complete no coiner, even when you have had your moments of being even a BIGGER jerk than anyone else... and trying to one-upsman jerkmanship....

And again level of low-coiner is a relative concept... in which any of us could be wrong in terms of making those kinds of accusations to make a point or for whatever reason that we might be wanting to make such accusations.

From the perspective of this here cat, I still have difficulties knowing why it really matters... the label is a bit of a distraction... even if such labels might sometimes help other forum members to figure out from where a member is coming from in terms of how s/he frames issues and what observations are being made or which arguments are being presented.

Go ahead... Stay excited about low prices.. whatever.. that's up to you, and it is not like my mood is exactly locked in, anyhow (to the extent that I have moods). Surely I sometimes will get excited about negative BTC prices because it weeds out certain kinds of degenerates.. and sometimes I wish for more crash in order to weed out some of the shitcoins too.. but sometimes it NOT healthy to focus on negative aspects, even if some of the purging of froth serves as a kind of unwanted necessity... or seemingly so..

Can you imagine if FTX would have been able to keep going with that level of bullshit fake money that they were slushing around? So yeah there can be some glee but at the same time some sadness with some of the innocent folks that had been pulled into such messes.. and even from various angles that we would not have expected.. questioning the solvency of GBTC. etc..

Quote from: Cryptotourist on Today at 12:57:55 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 09:35:32 AM

I cannot really know for sure, but maybe if you have less than what you should have in BTC in accordance with your finances and psychology measurements that you have to make. I tend to recommend an investment portfolio that is between 1% and 25% for newbies starting out, yet each person has to figure out his her proper balance.. so a low coiner would be someone who is being overly whimpy whether intentionally or accidentally.

My investment portfolio is 99% Bitcoin. [and a little of that other shitcoin I wont mention]
Ive also made efforts to sell some RE in the last couple of years, only to enhance my position on Bitcoin even further, and tip the scale between Bitcoin and my net worth.

I am not necessarily asking you to reveal anything.. but hey do whatever you want. You know that we sometimes do talk about these kinds of allocation concepts because they can help us to figure out if we are in a right kind of balance on a personal level, and then surely other forum members can attempt to figure out their own balance and sometimes compare themselves to other member.. dos and don't dos..

Surely some practices of allocation seem better than others, and frequently we can talk about how we might be allocated prior to getting into bitcoin and then changing that allocation while we are accumulating a bitcoin position and reaching a target, and then maybe various ways to engage in BTC maintenance.

That seems a bit much to say that you are 99% bitcoin, unless you are just referring to your "crypto" holdings..., and within your crypto holdings you are 99% bitcoin..

Anyhow some folks have more variety in their overall investment portfolio, and we need not necessarily get into those kinds of details, even though I have made quite a few post on the topic and even described how my BTC allocations changed partially due to BTC price changes and then also there is some management attempts in there too.. and also some preferences NOT to sell too much of my BTC.. even though for sure, we have BTC valuations that have tended to experience a lot of volatility over the 9 years that I have been into bitcoin... overall to the upside, even though considerable periods of downside, too.

It's not always easy to know if one strategy is better than another, and if you were to compare yourself to what you did versus what you might have done better, then frequently, I like to use the DCA as a kind of measure to figure out if you might have been able to beat a DCA strategy with your chosen allocation approach.

I am not really sure about your circumstances, but if we go by your forum registration date (of November 4, 2018) as a kind of BTC entry point, then maybe we can consider a hypothetical person and his performance as compared to how your performance is doing.. and you are the one who should judge yourself and your particulars in terms of comparing yourself to such hypothetical person...

Let me extrapolate, and suggest that if you were to have had a total quasi-liquid investment portfolio of $100k in November 2018, and then there could have been a variety of ways that you could have entered into bitcoin, even assuming that you were aggressive (assertive) in your bitcoin approach instead of whimpy. So maybe you could have done a fairly rapid allocation of 10% into bitcoin $10k-ish (let's say getting somewhere around 1.6 BTC) and then after that started to invest $50 per week which would have doubled your investment amount with about another $10,750 and the accumulation of another 0.9 BTC... so then the total number of BTC would have been about 2.5 based on around a $21k investment.

Of course, you are suggesting that you sold some of your BTC on the way up (50% ish) and then purportedly you are buying back or you have already mostly bought back.. Whatever, there are all kinds of ways that these matters could play out in terms of how long that you might spend accumulating BTC and then maybe if you had overallocated in the beginning, such as buying $20k worth of BTC rather than $10k, then you might have felt that you had an additional 1.6 BTC that you could have sold because you overallocated in the beginning of your investment. There are ways to engage in these kinds of risk management and portfolio management that are more prudent and reasonable (and don't necessarily rise to the level of gambling), and there are ways to be degenerate about it.. You have the ability to make your choices based on your individual factors... and to learn from your mistakes (to the extent that you might have had any) and then to attempt to incorporate better practices (to the extent that you care about money - which you emotionally blurted that you do not.. hahahahaha.. go figure? or don't.).

Quote from: Cryptotourist on Today at 12:57:55 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 09:35:32 AM

Stop enjoying it... whether pleasantly or otherwise. Angry

Come on Jay, get a grip.
Bitcoin is going to do Bitcoin, regardless.

Sure. Bitcoin gives no shits about whether you are enjoying these times or not. I probably already said enough on the topic... which kind of revolves around taking advantage of the situation as much as possible.. but I still have troubles enjoying these kinds of times.. .. and I don't even regret that I did not sell very much on the way up... not really getting into too many details, but I did likely sell 2x to 3x the amount that I had initially invested.. but then used that money to buy back on the way down and mostly used it up by the time that we got down to $19k or so.... but the way that I do my systems, it is not really easy to trace exactly what is new money or what is just used up from previous sales on the way up.. even though I can see that quite a bit of my additional money is coming into bitcoin that I had considered was completely off of the table.. so I prefer NOT to be injecting new money into bitcoin, but there has already been quite a bit of new money coming in.. .. for me, it is not enjoyable, but I am not exactly in pain, either.. .. How is anyone going to complain when clearly and unambiguously being able to proclaim that s/he is at least in 16x profits (as I type this post)..

Quote from: Cryptotourist on Today at 12:57:55 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 09:35:32 AM

Wow. That's a lot. Selling that much might well 'splain some of your good mood, currently.

Actually dismissed 75% and 100% because I love Bitcoin, AND Im not that greedy.

Oh. How sweet of you.

Quote from: Cryptotourist on Today at 12:57:55 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 09:35:32 AM

Are you trying to suggest that you are on a higher plane than everyone else here?

No.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 09:35:32 AM

Have you realized that we are in a thread in which we are talking about bitcoin.. which is a form of money?.. sure it has other characteristics too, but bitcoin is the topic of this thread.

Sure, Bitcoin is sound money.
I only want what I think I need in my bubble though, nothing more, nothing less.

If you had not noticed, Bitcoin is so volatile that it might be worthy of having a cushion.. and also it might be worthy of having some ways to plan your finances in order to make sure that your plan is psychologically comfortable. Isn't that part of the reason that you sold 50% of your BTC? Because presumptively you were trying to employ a strategy that you believed would be sufficiently balanced to your circumstances in which you would have to worry the least. Whether it worked out somewhere in the ball park as planned might be another story. So perhaps learning along the way is done in order to attempt to figure out whether to continue with the same kinds of plans and practices, or whether to make some tweaks to the plans in order to maximize comfort. Sure, maybe you can assert that whatever you did was perfect, and sure that might be true, and maybe in that whole process you were able to minimize the amount of time that you ended up thinking about money matters, and good for uie pooie if you were able to achieve such objectives.

Quote from: Cryptotourist on Today at 12:57:55 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 09:35:32 AM

1) do you believe that it is beneficial or even desirable to delegate all things?

I believe humour is essential.

So, you won't be delegating your "wonderful" sense of humor, then?

Quote from: Cryptotourist on Today at 12:57:55 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 09:35:32 AM

2) have we established that this cat happens to be a higher coiner than any other cat, including you?

Dont get cocky now, or Ill have to bat slap you back into your senses.

Sounds like you are avoiding the question. We have not established coiner levels, to the extent that it matters.

Quote from: Cryptotourist on Today at 12:57:55 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 09:35:32 AM

In theory, that would be great.

Errr, gosh, whatever!

We're making progress.. A stalemate.

Quote from: Cryptotourist on Today at 12:57:55 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 09:35:32 AM

For what am I choosing? Are you trying to undermine OPsec of a peep? Shame on uie-pooie.

Grip, grip it, get a grip.

Ok. I will try, Mr. Emotional.

Quote from: Cryptotourist on Today at 12:57:55 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 09:35:32 AM

That's pretty specific.

Indeed it is, didnt you just love it?

Not really.