Quote from: Jabulon on April 09, 2014, 11:30:46 PM

Quote from: toknormal on April 09, 2014, 10:31:54 PM

IconicExpert

I don't know if you realise the sheer hypocrisy of some of the posts you're making on here but a few of them are quite hilarious....

Quote from: IconicExpert on April 09, 2014, 09:33:24 PM

I want to know why is someone pushing the price down artificially

...then in the same breath...

Quote from: IconicExpert on April 09, 2014, 09:33:24 PM

A lot of BTC has been spent trying to keep BC from going below 9000

If anyone's in a position to complain about market manipulation and false walls (i.e. not false in the sense that your prepared to spend the money but false in the sense that it's objective is other than regular investment) you're probably the least qualified. In fact the things you're getting up to are far worse that what the seller is doing that you're so eager to vilify who is probably just a genuine customer making a genuine trade after holding for a while.

What do you think potential investors are going see when they come here ? A coin who's price is kept inflated by parasitic mining of other coins. Holders who are busy manipulating the order book and placing buy walls to try to arrest any genuine price drops that may actually result in other genuine investors being able to enter the market at a level they can afford.

Stop pissing about with the order book in fear and panic and let the price go to where it's going to go based on the genuine advantages the coin has to offer.

You'll do less damage that way and might surprise yourself at the same time.

You have made a number of astute points on this thread, and I frankly am glad to see a bit of genuine thesis-antithesis going on here, as it's necessary for any vital discussion aiming for a valid sense of truth. Otherwise we just end up with cheerleading and preaching-to-the-converted, peppered with the occasional fud-bomb. That said, I'd love to hear an honest disclosure from you about your motivation in posting here. At times you really do seem on a mission. What would you say that mission is?

Regarding the substance of your post: The phrase you have coined, "parasitic mining" is wonderfully sensationalist rhetoric. But it's based on a false premise, and a false analogy. This rhetorical trick supports a dichotomy you have set up, between "genuine" and "artificial", which you then abuse to the point of fallacy. The parasite analogy while colorful does not accurately describe the relationship between our multipool and the coins mined. Nor is there any "artificial" happening here. The multipool is a mechanism by which genuine Blackcoin fans genuinely express their genuine valuation for the coin - and this naturally influences the market as it results in increased demand. It is no different in principle than my selling all the 300 Vertcoins I'd mined over several weeks, to raise cash with which to buy Blackcoin. Do I retroactively become a Vert-parasite? Of course not. The mining pool merely creates a convenient, continuous, intelligent system for the same fundamental transaction, on behalf of a like-minded group.

You completely failed to address the main content of his post, and instead decided to focus on a single phrase used once within it and even went so far as to refer to that as being the "substance of his post". It has been admitted that the market is being manipulated upward. How about people address that, since that is the actual substance of his/her post(s).