Quote from: AicecreaME on December 22, 2022, 03:09:30 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on December 22, 2022, 02:54:40 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on December 22, 2022, 03:12:15 AM

Quote from: Silberman on December 22, 2022, 12:13:18 AM

Without a doubt cultural differences can lead to different views about this, while some people may not see anything wrong with this some others may see in this a form of animal cruelty, personally I am not fond of this, and this is because if the whole point is to gamble some money and get some fun then I can do this in other gambling games without the need for any animal to end injured or dead, so I think of this as completely unnecessary.

Yes. Cultural differences will be there. And therefore we need to refrain from imposing our views on others and respect their personal freedom. Irony dies a thousand deaths when someone sitting in the US or the EU wants to lecture on someone else who is part of a tribal community in Indonesia or Vietnam regarding animal cruelty. These people are practicing their customs for many thousands of years, suddenly some outsiders want them to stop doing that. And the same people who lecture them have no problem with animal cruelty that is going on in the mega corporate agrobusinesses in US/EU.

I agree that there will be cultural differences because if we look at Asian countries, this cockfight is still frequently contested. This is difficult to stop because this tradition has existed since ancient times. And that will depend on each person who gambles because we also cannot impose our will on those still playing cockfighting, especially if most of the population there really likes playing cockfighting. We could get into trouble if we keep asking them not to play cockfighting and even if the government asks them to stop, it won't be easy either.

Cultural differences really plays a part in cockfighting in various countries that allow this kind of gambling. Each countries have different traditions and culture which we can't really change, thus, we can't really force them to abandon their cockfighting habits most especially if their government permits this in their locality.

Although for sure there are types of organizations that fight against their cruel acts on animals. What we can do is to just advocate it if it's our principles as well and avoid engaging in it since we can't really impose our beliefs and idealogies to others.

Right. That is why there are lots of traditional gambling in various countries that are still developing today. On the one hand, people want to preserve cockfighting, which may become an identity in a country and that is their tradition and culture. If it is removed, they may lose their identity and forget the traditional games passed down by their ancestors.

And if that doesn't suit us, we don't need to watch the cockfight and choose to use other methods to play gambling. We also can't force them to stop playing cockfighting.

Quote from: Pamadar on December 22, 2022, 08:07:20 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on December 22, 2022, 02:54:40 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on December 22, 2022, 03:12:15 AM

Quote from: Silberman on December 22, 2022, 12:13:18 AM

Without a doubt cultural differences can lead to different views about this, while some people may not see anything wrong with this some others may see in this a form of animal cruelty, personally I am not fond of this, and this is because if the whole point is to gamble some money and get some fun then I can do this in other gambling games without the need for any animal to end injured or dead, so I think of this as completely unnecessary.

Yes. Cultural differences will be there. And therefore we need to refrain from imposing our views on others and respect their personal freedom. Irony dies a thousand deaths when someone sitting in the US or the EU wants to lecture on someone else who is part of a tribal community in Indonesia or Vietnam regarding animal cruelty. These people are practicing their customs for many thousands of years, suddenly some outsiders want them to stop doing that. And the same people who lecture them have no problem with animal cruelty that is going on in the mega corporate agrobusinesses in US/EU.

I agree that there will be cultural differences because if we look at Asian countries, this cockfight is still frequently contested. This is difficult to stop because this tradition has existed since ancient times. And that will depend on each person who gambles because we also cannot impose our will on those still playing cockfighting, especially if most of the population there really likes playing cockfighting. We could get into trouble if we keep asking them not to play cockfighting and even if the government asks them to stop, it won't be easy either.

To add up, even there's already a law against it, in some parts of third country places, traditions indeed are really hard to stop, people who are involved with cockfighting will continue to bring the fight illegally.

Knowing gamblers, they will find ways as both enjoyment and gambling is being catered
with each cockfighting activities are being held, either in a legal arena or even in a small
venue where illegal cockfighting is being catered.

The law already exists and the authorities have intensively carried out operations but there are still cockfighting practices in many places and most of the fights are illegal. That's because they don't care about the laws that have been made. Those who play cockfighting still come to gambling and make their bets. This also attracts the attention of many people to see the fight. This is what keeps cockfighting going, even in a hidden place. The gamblers seemed to be able to hold the cockfighting bet so they could keep doing it and even invite lots of people to come and bet.