Do you think that American, European or Ukrainian media never lie, or do you have a special goal in life to expose lies only in the Russian media?
Never said that. But Wester and Ukrainian is ages behind Russian in making of fakes.
It is read as it is written and there is no need to invent your own version of events.
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Enough of the acting already, mind reader. Just admit that you are making up stories based on your own personal fantasies.
If you read my post, I mentioned that Simonyan message out of memory without quoting it in exact words. And such interpretation as mine of such short message is logical without context of messages that she reposted further.
Aren't you tired of juggling facts yet? In that post, I refer to the Ukrainian site defense-ua.com to determine how many Turkish drones were delivered to Ukraine. Ukrainian sources give an approximate number - from 60 to 96, because one bayraktar complex contains 6 of these drones. If it seemed to you that two Ukrainian users debunked something there, then you are demonstrating your ignorance in this way. Especially for people like you, a lazy reader of thoughts, I publish a quote from the Ukrainian site.
So, ok, how many Bayraktars Ukraine had exactly and how many Russia destroyed? It would be interesting to hear real information from someone who post only verified information, no fakes and never makes mistakes. BTW, Russia loves to praise about their achievements, but there isn't many proofs about downed Bayraktars. There is maybe about 20 photos and videos with drones that were shot down. What is a bit strange. Meanwhile proofs about Orlan drones that were shot down comes almost on daily basis.
PS. I noticed the signature that you placed under your avatar. Do you know that this is the Nazi greeting of Ukrainian Nationalists, which were
responsible for the death of tens of thousands of Jews and Poles? I didnt specifically write about Russians, it seems that you dont care when they are killed, but maybe at least your attitude towards Poles and Jews is a little better.
"Slava Ukrainy", "Glory to Ukraine", was the greeting of the OUN, the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists,
and, in 1941, that organization issued instructions that the greeting should be made with the right arm raised,
with "the fingertips a little to the right, a little above the top of the head." Similar salutes were used by the Croatian Ustashe,
the Hlynka Guard in Slovakia, the Spanish Falangists, and, of course, the Nazis.
SourceHappy that you liked my text under avatar. But FYI, this phrase have longer history than WWII. Anyway, nice interpretation of my minds, but I can respond you with your own words:
Just admit that you are making up stories based on your own personal fantasies.
You were given a
link to a completely official Ukrainian site, where they named the approximate number of bayraktars from 60 to 96. Everything else is guesswork. For some reason, you don't ask yourself that bayraktars have practically ceased to be talked about in the media. With a high degree of probability this means that they have all been destroyed (from 60 to 96), otherwise what's the point for the Armed Forces of Ukraine not to use them? In any case, only the General Staff of Ukraine knows the truth, how many bayraktars were in total and how many of them were lost. Shares such information, including on the HIMARS and aircrafts, during the hostilities no one will ever. Therefore, your conversations are at the level of faith. You also cannot refute the words of the Russian general Konashenkov, because you don't have the appropriate level of knowledge for this. What real evidence do you have that Konashenkov is lying, apart from your guesses?
Since when Defence-ua.com become official source? I always thought that offical source is Ministry of Defence of Ukraine or General Staff of the AFU, but not some news website which focus on military topics.
For some reason, many in the West think that everything in this conflict is tied to Putin. Of course, I don't know the inner workings of the Kremlin, but judging by the
Telegram posts of the former Russian President Medvedev (who 3 days ago
met with the leader of China), Putin is generally a dove of peace against his background, and if such a repulsed hawk as Medvedev comes, then a total war can quickly flare up. If it seems to someone that Medvedev is nothing from a military point of view, then I hasten to remind you that in 2008 (08.08.08), under Medvedev, they dealt with the Georgian army in five days, which attacked the territory of South Ossetia.
https://i.imgur.com/wu16q8A.pngOh, alcochol additctive Dimon who is now playing role of clown Zhirinovsky who loves to make apocalyptic scenarios which never turn into reality. Is it really worth to pay attention to his words?
Do they (Oryx) also always "tell the truth" like the American press? Let's see what they write about Oryx on
Wikipedia:
Oryx, or Oryxspioenkop is a Dutch open-source intelligence (OSINT) defence analysis website,
and warfare research group. It is run by Stijn Mitzer and Joost Oliemans. Both have previously worked
for Netherlands-based Bellingcat. Oliemans also worked for Janes Information Services, a British
open-source military intelligence company.
^ One of Oryx worked with a
British military intelligence company. Do you even know that the British military are among the most active supporters of Ukraine and are never a neutral side in this conflict? Also, the authors are former employees of Bellingcat. Now let's see what opinion other information resources have about this organization:
[2016-10-22 17:53:09] <WikiLeaks> Bellingcat is part funded by the UK MoD and is UKUSA aligned.
Source:
archive of American investigative reporter
Emma BestSo, where is the problem exactly? Do you have proofs about them publishing fakes or only problem that you found is personalities that runs website?
