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Well Bitcoin has a much different timescale. 3 months is almost an eternity in Bitcoinland.

I am not sure what you mean by this, if you could elaborate it would be very helpful.

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Why reinvent the wheel when MaidSafe can just plug in to Storj and get an existing userbase? Since we integrate tightly with them we benefit as well.

We'll this is why I even started this conversation, I asked you why don't you build this on the MaidSafe network.
By using a Storjcoin you are building a ecosystem outside MaidSafe and thus directly damaging MaidSafe. Why do you think that you will be able to use the Safe network for storaging files that you charge for?
MaidSafe is in no way getting your userbase since you are making them use Storjcoin and therefore it's not a symbiotic relationship, as you suggested, but rather a parasitic one.

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We help them build front end services, and Bitcoin 2.0 integration, while they can focus on the more algorithmic Internet 2.0. I mean we are taking about replacing billion dollar marketplaces here, no one is going to be able to do it single-handedly.

What I meant by Bitcoin 2.0 is that it's going to be more advanced (in some ways e.g. anonymous and instant confirmation). I don't really understand what did you mean by Bitcoin 2.0 integration? Does it have something to do with ethereum?

I completely agree, on the other hand, that you should be building front end services but they should be built on top of Safe network and using Safecoin. You loose absolutely nothing and gain everything.

1) You are a part of a platform that is going to rival the Internet itself with a built in payment system more advanced then Bitcoin (again, if this all pans out as planned)

2) You charge for added value in Safecoins which are poised to be a great investment

3) You get extra monies out of development pool ( there will be a fund that rewards developers with 10% of all new Safecoins)

4) You only build apps and the rest is taken care of

5) Huh

6) Profit

Quote from: Bebopzzz on April 10, 2014, 01:38:23 AM

well this one falls flat on it's ass since MaidSafe is not going to charge for storage.

Also good luck trying to get the average person of the street trying out your new decentralized storage system when they can just use dropbox. What I'm trying to say is those who win on bitcointalk and r/bitcoin will have a huge advantage

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Incorrect. I can't just magically store 100 TB of data on the MaidSafe network for free. I have to have Safecoin, and Safecoin has a trade value on an exchange. It costs me money to store stuff.
Pretty easy sell for the average consumer. I just say its 10x cheaper than Dropbox, NSA can't read all your data, but it works pretty much the same way they are used to they are pretty much sold at this point. I add that you can sell your hard drive for Storjcoins they are ready to sign up.

I call double incorrect.

I suggest you read this e-mail thread:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/maidsafe-development/HfdZ3WPQoAg

or this excellent blog post:
http://metaquestions.me/2014/04/02/project-safe-is-this-the-fair-business-model-at-last/

And finally the white paper which is also a piece of work:
https://github.com/maidsafe/Whitepapers/blob/master/Project-Safe.md

In other words MaidSafe has you beat in any way possible. Resistance is futile.

Quote from: Bebopzzz on April 10, 2014, 01:38:23 AM

everything you said just replace Storjcoin with Safecoin.

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Can you show me where in their model where they pay dividends or provide increased value on the application level?

You can read about it from the resources I posted above but TL;DR is that devs of apps get 10% of all new Safecoins and Farmers (they are basically miners) get 90% of all new Safecoins

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