Quote from: 1miau on Today at 01:55:47 AM

Quote from: franky1 on January 11, 2023, 11:46:00 PM

a blockchain is not a court

Since we have on-chain transactions and Lightning now, it's even more obvious that the Blockchain can be compared to a court and less to a bus.

Lightning is showing us how the bus comparison is not necessarily true. And a Lightning transaction also can't be compared to park and ride since many additional people would be brought to the park and ride to take the bus afterwards.
But that doesn't work for the Blockchain. Lightning is "consolidating" transactions and settling it by broadcasting it to the Blockchain. We can't do that with additional people going into a bus. Cheesy

In my opinion, the court analogy is more accurate.

when you realise
that lightning is not the bitcoin network.
and LN onion payments are not in anyway similar to bitcoin payments.
and realise bitcoin never leaves the bitcoin network.
and realise that without needing to recompile a LN can peg to other networks

you start to realise LN is not a bitcoin sole feature that solely works or functions or is unique to bitcoin.
its its own network of a totally different transport system with crappy rules that are not enforced and can allow fractional reserving and value de-pegs(value insecurity)

you start to realise you should not be comparing bitcoin to something based on a separate networks bridging terms

its like you want to say bitcoin is a court because outside of court theres this thing people use instead
ther is no logic in it

yes the bridge tx format that allows users to offramp bitcoin and play around outside of bitcoin (with value they think (falsely) still ties them to bitcoin) has terminology of witnesses and witness discriptions and transcripts..

but thats new inventive words .. its not bitcoin based on 2009-2017
the stuff gmax and yourself are trying to push is that instead of bitcoin being property. bitcoin is now some witness statement seen in court.. meaning its not do to with moving YOUR property. but about observing movements of value of things no one has ownership of where everyone is just witness to value they had access to witness movements

sorry but il stick to how bitcoin is represented. by key possession and ownership.. i will not be downgraded to just being a witness to funds moving that used to be considered mine. but not mine iof i move them into silly formats made after 2017
(ill stick with legacy thanks.. oh and legacy does not function with LN)