Quote from: rahmad2nd on Today at 06:58:11 PM

Quote from: Trading on April 03, 2016, 04:54:30 PM

   I just say I have no reasons to believe on his existence and have some grounds above presented that point against his existence.

   It's the same situation that makes be very skeptic on the existence of flying horses.

   I'm very skeptical, but I'm open to any real evidence on the existence of god or flying horses.

   Therefore, I think I have grounds to say that I'm an atheist and not a simple agnostic.

It took me some time to understand all this long post. at least, there are many things that I should interpret and inspire. unfortunately, my time is limited for that. so I only read the colored text and everything else is cursory. whatever you say, in essence you do not believe in god let alone life after death. I can't argue as well as you can, at least not on matters of faith. this problem, is a spiritual problem, between me and my god, nor is it only based on guidance from holy books that exist from various beliefs.

To be honest, I have read a lot about various religions, especially the leading religions on this earth. in fact, we had our own ancestral beliefs before imported religions came and spread in my country. for me, religion and its holy book are just guidelines that in this era need to be revised. because after all, there are many things that become pros and cons between verse one and another verse. but in essence, how do we define God himself. and if being an atheist makes you happy, then that is entirely yours and no one forbids it, except for a fool who imposes his beliefs on others.

To be honest, my faith is very doubtful and even I am no better than other believers. but I believe, there is a big entity behind all human drama and contents of everything in this universe. after all, until now technology has not answered all about the secrets of the universe. whatever the argument, it will not solve problems and debates related to religion. So, if that makes you happy you have every right not to have a religion.

The whole theme of the Bible is to get people to believe that God is saving them. Right after Adam and Eve sinned, God spoke about the salvation He was sending.

This salvation is the thread that flows to Jesus, where Jesus does it for God. And following this work that Jesus did, there is writings on the new life that people should want to live in. And there is the Revelation that shows what the final result of all of this will be.

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