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I do agree with you that the possibility of bots claiming the bonus multiple times is highly unlikely. Most systems have measures in place to prevent this kind of abuse. As for the wagering requirements, it's true that not everyone can meet those, but that's usually the trade-off for the bigger rewards.

I've also noticed that there are some bonuses that go unclaimed, especially during slower periods like the holidays you mentioned. It's possible that people simply don't have the time or resources to fulfill the wager requirements during those times.

I think stake is one of the most elite secure casinos out there not just because they care about it needlessly more than others, but because they have been attacked by bots many times before. Hell, between stake and primedice, I am 99.99% sure that they are the ones that got the most hatred of all casinos and got all the attacks.

It meant that they had to protect themselves and they had to find a way to prevent bots from attacking. This caused them to learn how to defend by basically putting proper systems in place which would find if a person is a bot or not. I think it took a while though, it wasn't like that at first, but they got better and better at it.

I honestly cannot see how these bots can be profitable with all the wager requirements that are put in place. I have made some calculations on how many bonuses are dropped and how much it costs us to wager.. and the cost to wager the minimum requirement to claim these bonuses... are much higher than the profit that they can make.

Yesterday it cost me $14 to wager $1000 on Dice with a 98% win change.... so you have to successfully claim almost 10 bonuses at $5 each to recover the money you spend to meet the minimum wager amount of say $3500. Roll Eyes

You also need to deal with the constant errors to claim it... and the Capthas if you tried too many times.

True.
I made those calculations last year ago already and it didn't add up. The reward is waaaaay to low, it makes no sense.

On Saturday's stream the wager requirement is now between 3-10k , and still Eddie is talking about bots bot bots. I think it's just a sorry excuse to raise the wager and collect level 2 verification. They did the same last year when they "tried" level 2 as a requirement, Eddie then said the "bots" register their whole village to claim the drops, this is crazy.

Well, Stake should know exactly how much each so-called bot are wagering to match the minimum requirement to claim these bonuses... but I have to agree with you.. it is not about the bots anymore. Roll Eyes

We also keep record of our wagering statistics and how the minimum requirement are increased... way beyond the profitability of running a bot.... and this does not make sense anymore.

Is there anyone out there that are running a bot.. that can comment with a "newbie" account here... to state their side of the story?

Another thing is.... Eddie mentioned that they are considering to reduce the wagering influence done with Original games.... and this will be the last straw for many people..... because the house edge on other games is just ridiculous. Roll Eyes