Quote from: zoata87 on April 11, 2014, 08:11:24 AM

did someone talked to altcoincalender.info to put in there?

I'll take care of it right away.

Quote from: ordenadoresatm on April 11, 2014, 08:43:00 AM

Transaction id: a1596ba87e84dd7e85bce5bda8d965f1736f22de40d9e401556a6124fc8d0d8f
Amount: 0.03 BTC

Thank you for your vote of confidence! I'll add it to the IPO page shortly.

Quote from: decivox on April 11, 2014, 12:54:54 PM

So is this coin dead now that the Liberals won a majority and the PQ suffered a miserable defeat? There will be no Yes/No referendum coming in the foreseeable future. Its really too bad though, I was hoping that my tax dollars would stop getting transferred to your broke province to pay for all of its social programs the rest of Canada doesn't get. I guess I can mine this coin for a bit and try to get some of my money back that your province has been stealing through Federal Equalisation Payments.

And as far as Quebec being recognized as a nation, that was a political play to gain the Conservatives some ground in your province. Stephen Harper calling your province a nation inside Canada has no real meaning... he was just trying to get his party some seats.

First phrase could have been a real question - to which the answer is, Québecoin is politically neutral, we don't care about political parties.

The rest of what you wrote is useless hate. Good luck with your issues.

Quote from: Lemayilleur on April 11, 2014, 01:51:09 PM

Quote from: JPGagnon on April 11, 2014, 04:52:36 AM

It doesn't matter if it's two forum members, the important thing is that the process is provably secure from any point of view. I'm telling you right away that there won't be thousands of dollars or expensive notaries/lawyers involved in securing the premine, even if the IPO was 200 BTC and I had extra cash to burn, the security is built in to the protocol and there are ways of making it foolproof for everyone involved.

I actually know nothing about bank vaults, the rules you can apply to them and the strength of those rules. I have a bit of experience about dealing with decent amount of money. When both party want's to be safe, they get it well documented by authorities so that nobody get screwed easily. That cost money. The point I was trying to make is that I wouldn't trust the Pre-Mine Protection unless it's professionally handled. Id be willing to donate for such a project/kick-starter type thing, and I wouldnt be the only one. I have a feeling the media would be all over this as well. The first Nation-coin with a solid protection.

Quote from: JPGagnon on April 11, 2014, 04:52:36 AM

We'll outline a plan of action and you can then find the flaws if there are any and force us to correct them before proceeding. One way of making it more credible overall was to get the assistance and approval of a well known person in Montréal, a celebrity or ideally some kind of well known tech figure.

Thats great. I was even thinking maybe a business like Vault Of Satoshi (yes, Im bringing up VoS again lol)? Or something similar that has so far proven their legitimacy in the crypto world might be interested in being the "protector" of a portion of a nation pre-mine. It would definitely bring them great publicity and customers.

Quote from: JPGagnon on April 11, 2014, 04:52:36 AM

That way it's not two guys from a forum. If that's still not enough, I'll reimburse you your IPO investment and you will be able to put it into a project which will meet your required standards.

I hope youre not being hurt by what Im saying? I have a strong feeling youre not new around the Interwebs, and you know exactly the point Im trying to make. Being a Quebecer, Im extremely excited about QBC and I will be talking my friends and family into it. Im even thinking about participating and helping with what ever I can. Something I havent done for any of the coins I own. But I cannot invest the amount I would like too knowing how easily I can be burned. Same with friends and family; I couldnt but give them a big warning.

50% of the coins! Thats a whale from outer space. Dont you feel a bit unsafe knowing that this is a major target if the coins reaches any kind of decent value?

Quote from: JPGagnon on April 11, 2014, 04:52:36 AM

There's no reason to cringe at my promises, almost every nation coin developer has been anonymous so far, I'm not trying to be and I'm doing more than anyone so far to secure the pre-mine. No one is perfect, but my jaw dropped with disgust when I heard about the Aphrodite coin dumps if that's any indicator on how I feel about human nature. That's why I'm so enthusiastic about making people feel secure about the entire process.

As far as I know, youve only discussed it on the internet so far. I agreed that it brings QBC ahead other nation coin, has they did not discuss this at all(?). But in reality, chatting over the internet doesnt mean much. Baby steps of course. Theres also the fact that the protection will only (if it does) kick in post launch. Leaves more rooms for accident to happen. Ive red countless hours of stuff like http://www.419eater.com/html/letters.htm. I guess it really left a mark on me. And Im sorry - Its nothing against you - nor against any other nation coin developer. Be it anonymous OR NOT, I hardly trust anybody that I do not know at a personal level.

The Current state of crypto currency is high risk / high reward game. When you add a 50% pre-mine it becomes an extreme risk, still high reward. Thats how I see it. Im in this for 45$ fucking dollars Yet I feel like to care a lot about this coin. If it wasnt for the added risk of an IPO/Pre-mine, Id be in for a lot more than 45$. And I mean a LOT more.

First of all I wasn't offended by anything you wrote, you have very valid concerns, I offered to refund you the investment because I didn't want you to feel like you put your money into QBC thinking one thing and that it would end up being something else.

I think the ideal thing would really be a trusted third party, if it's Vault of Satoshi that would be amazing, they have their reputation to protect but it would also mean that they would need to add Québecoin (which I hope they do anyways). But I also can't expect them to do extra work for us, so I'll see what can be done. The important part is that we're going to make sure the premine is 100% secure no matter how we do it and I think you can see that. You can wait until after that is done and then you'll be sure about how you feel.