Quote from: gmaxwell on Today at 07:35:22 AM

Impossible to prove or disprove franky1, and some people have cited his comments about it not being good to hold bitcoin as suggesting there might be jealousy reasons to burn it down. I know for a fact that some other early Bitcoiners turned on to full bitcoin hate because they lost or gave away their Bitcoin or never acquired a large amount when they could have. But that kind of stuff is just speculation and I think in this case it fails occam's razor: People get conned, it happens and it happens more often than complicated movie plot payoff schemes.

I think I'd have to see evidence of a *huge* payment to rate the bought off theory more highly than someone who was just tricked-- and there is no reason to think the Wright would have been able to make a huge payment in the first place.

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csw back then more so but even now says things about bitcoins functions and features that are nothing like what the real satoshi said

It's true but Wright clearly has some magic charisma over people in person. I think in 1:1 interactions Wright is probably highly effective at controlling the direction of conversation through carefully calibrated abuse, feigned outrage, storming out, etc.

Satoshi was also more abrasive towards Gavin in private than we know him to have been in public communications (e.g. more like that dismissal of future altcoin scammer Larimer, the only time Satoshi was ever outright abrasive in public). Especially if Gavin had recently reviewed his discussions with Satoshi he might have been newly offended and when wright was a dick he could have thought "well, that checks out". For the rest of us we see Wrigt's public conduct as 180 degrees off of Satoshi, but Gavin might have over valued the few criticisms he got from Satoshi and thought the two weren't polar opposites.

Probably the most shocking thing to me is that in Gavin and Wright's communication, at some point Wright started fire and brimstone-ing about patents or something and Gavin responded with something along the lines of "see when you talk like that it makes people think you're a scammer". WTF, why did Gavin coach him to scam better?? Total facepalm moment there, but I guess Gavin was already committed to the believe that Wright was legit.

Perhaps in addition to the current situation, which few self centred forum members and few others those who are aware that in every social experimentation the members of the movement divide themselves on the basis their personal interest instead of the collective interest.

The blockchain implemention and its application also its improvement and scalling fully depends our selfless efforts now and in the future. As I told you, there should be a minimum age rule without a transaction fee which has not realised. If the Bitcoin community continuously fight each others just for their self centred interest it not noodles good at all for the main purpose bitcoin advent. It can halt the smooth running of Bitcoin. On the topic I can say that each person know their own personal fault. Gavin and Craig both have caused a serious setback for the Bitcoin progression. On the other hand they both are playing their parts according to their abilities and capacities. They both have personal responsibilities to correct themselves for the benefits of the Bitcoin community. Perhaps, I may have to take a new disconnect for the current situation of court cases filed by Craig. Each person has rights to enjoy their liberty and freedom but when some one become utterly greedy for selfish purposes is unacceptable.

As PM Sunak has reshuffle his cabinet, I think it time for me to use the parliamentary model to improve the Bitcoin community image for the best interest of Bitcoin community.

According to the generation rule that says that a free transaction must be 3 blocks deep before it can be transfered again for free, which has not fully realised. If Gavin could have pay more attention to it then it would have been done accordingly. So is the case of Gavin and Craig. They both have their own mistakes and fallout. I am impressed to see the credibility of Craig to stair up the thing time to time by filling new cases against bitcoin forum members and developers. I think he does not get exosted because of mind's capacity. After all, I have really nothing to say about the current climate in the Bitcoin community because I am not there to say anything which is legitimate or reasonable because I am out. It is time for Bitcoin community members to setup new policies to tackle any collective problems arises collectively.