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Re: What cause the donation closure thread of Yahoo
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hilariousandco
on 10/02/2023, 20:29:18 UTC
Not all donations are begging. If someone wants to send you or me money as a donation then they can go to our profiles and do so. You can donate to anyone you want. What you can't do is create a thread to try solicit donations. If a thread contains a sob story and address urging others to donate then I'd say yes, that clarifies as a begging thread.
I never before saw moderators contacted someone to remove Bitcoin address from their topic, and this should not be done selectively like you are doing.

Why would you see it? It was done in private, but they usually don't get contacted at all. They either go straight in the trash without notification or the person gets a ban but I thought I'd do the nice thing and nicely ask him to remove it rather than trash the entire thing. It's really not done selectively. I think everyone should be treated the same and people shouldn't be begging for money here. I would urge people to report any begging threads and we'll probably stop a lot of scams from happening in the first place.

One more thread that comes to my mind was controversial Bitcointalk Charity topic, with three forum members being involved in abusing collected donations.
That topic was allowed to exists for months, and it's interesting that yahoo was one of the people who first talked about that issue, so I don't see him as a bitcoin beggar:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5376475.0

I don't think that thread should have been there but two wrongs don't make a right. That situation was a perfect example of the issues that arise from these things. People trusted so called trusted users/familiar faces and they straight up abused their position likely pilfering funds for themselves. If that thread would have been reported then it likely would have been removed straight away. I'm sure the people meriting it and donating to it were thinking they were contributing to a noble cause but that probably didn't happen, or not on the scale expected. It's sad and disgusting that people abuse charity but don't ever forget how low people will stoop to line their own pockets. Abusing charity is an extra level of low in my opinion because you're taking advantage of people's good nature to enrich yourself and genuine people who need the money and probably didn't even ask for it in the first place are losing out.

I will repeat again, there was no bitcoin addresses when thread was created, he added it later after other members asked for that.
I don't know what I would do in similar situation, but fact is that most members supported yahoo and gave him bunch of merits.
Last time I checked he didn't receive  that much Bitcoin at all, fake Bruno scammer and Bitcointalk Charity trio received much much more.

It doesn't really matter when it was put there but I can't confirm that to be true or not. Are you saying he only added the "I'm not asking for donations or anything, but I do have a bitcoin address in my profile if anyone wants to help out they can." at a later date? I think yahoo probably knew what he was doing by creating that thread but it would be a terrible loophole if we allow threads to be edited after they're created because someone suggested people could donate and that makes it ok. You could just have a friend or even an alt account make the suggestion.

PS
Your last quote was wrong, I didn't say that, it was post from Halab:

If you want to talk about your health problems... why not. If people are touched by your story, they will contact you by PM to ask you for an address to make a donation. That's all you can hope. Because if we open this Pandora's box, there will be abuse.


Fixed.