Quote from: be.open on February 11, 2023, 02:37:26 PM

I did not state or expect that Europe would freeze over this winter. It was immediately obvious that the authorities would not allow this and the energy-intensive industry would become a victim of the energy shortage, which actually happened.

Maybe you didn't, but some other members said that without Russian gas and oil we gonna drive around in donkey carts and use firewood while in reality it was business as usual.

Quote from: pooya87 on February 11, 2023, 05:30:19 PM

The propaganda machine convinces people of a horrible scenario but from the mouth of a third party (so that they are not liable). Then in the future when something terrible (but less bad as that scenario like 11k gas bill or increased excess mortality due to cold homes (https://www.endfuelpoverty.org.uk/over-1000-dead-in-december-2022-due-to-cold-homes/)) happens people react less negatively or simply don't even believe it.

Regarding the excess mortality due cold homes, according to the article you linked, 50% more people died in December 2020 than it was during December 2022 while 10 year average for UK is 7409 so it was business as usual there. And yet again you are the ones that spread fear.

Quote from: https://www.endfuelpoverty.org.uk/over-1000-dead-in-december-2022-due-to-cold-homes/

In total there were 1,047 excess winter deaths caused by living in cold damp homes in England in December 2022, this is up from 768 in December 2021. In December 2020 there were 1,518.