Quote from: OutOfMemory on February 17, 2023, 11:10:33 PM

Quote from: Gachapin on February 17, 2023, 09:36:09 PM

Please explain to me, how what you wrote has anything to do with the topic that I brought up (Muslim hate towards gays).

Easy.
Hater Muslims, considering themselves uber-male, also to distance themselves more from gays, which are seen as "weak" are bigger pussies than some of those gays.

I agree. So why do you address me, who didn't make any contrary claim ?

Go and tell Hamza that homosexuality and masculinity can go hand in hand. Or are you afraid to discuss that with the Muslim who actually made the claim?

Quote from: OutOfMemory on February 17, 2023, 11:10:33 PM

I met Muslims who where all about respect to life, in contrast. That's also why they left their motherland, to start living a more free, integer life in western countries. They don't even want to be integrated as much in the western Muslim community, they like to live on modern principles instead, allowing their wifes and daughters ditch the headscarfs...

You just can't really lump together gay people or Muslims or almost any members of any group.
That's quite simple minded. In a world of growing complexity. Doesn't age well in most cases. Beware.

I will get to your point, please allow me to state some essential facts first:

Islam is an ideology that follows the commands of a god who demands to subjugate non-believers and to kill them, if they resist.
(Read the Koran and the Sunnah, if you don't believe me.)

The Koran, "the word of god" instructs its readers to kill people. And the killing is performed by its followers every single day.

Now all you say about that ideology is that there are followers that are not so strict? That's not an argument.
Obviously, there were Nazis that weren't very strict in their conviction, but should we therefore just ignore the rest of the deathly ideology?

You fought the classic straw-man insinuating that I claim all Muslims are the same. I never said such a thing.
What I claim is that they are fanboys of the same fascist ideology.

And btw... most of the Muslims who want to leave Islam can't, because many would get expelled from their families and Muslim friends (the sharia demands to even kill apostates).

I have friends and family who suffer under these conditions, but they cannot speak out, because of the repercussions they'd face.