Quote from: nster on March 07, 2011, 10:11:54 PM

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Quote from: nster on March 07, 2011, 01:42:12 PM

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Quote from: edric on March 07, 2011, 08:09:33 AM

I'm not exactly sure what you meant by that, but you are indeed right in the point you make at Nvidia sucking at crunching numbers. I'm running a brand new MSI GTX 560, OC to 1003 core, and I'm getting ~100 mhash, lol.

Maybe if enough people from a certain place I will not mention get a clue as to how ATI cards are making great headway into the bitcoin project, possibly there would be less "hurr no drivers" arguments. In the meantime, I'm going to enjoy my housefires and flaming 1.7 wood screws. I made my bed and I'll sleep soundly enough in it.

Told one of my friends about bitcoin, and the sheer difference between ATI and Nvidia and the main thing they market their products with.
ATI: Eyeinfinity, Number crunching, OC, Hardware OC modifications, Cheaper
Nvidia: Nvidia 3D, Stabler , "Quality", Better drivers, More OC with hacked drivers

Tried to convience him to buy ATI and start number crunching. He said, no.

Your comparision is flawed.

ATI has 3D too, ATI is not always cheaper, Nvidida is DEFINITIVELY not stabler nor does it has ANY nor more "quality" than ATI at all, "better drivers" is not truie anymore, ATI's drivers are very good now, ATi has unlocked shaders etc with hacked BIOS for 6950 which completely beats the ":More OC with hacked drivers" you give Nvidia, Nvidia actually Overclocks better than ATI

actually your comparison is VERY flawed Wink

- ATI is not always cheaper
What? In terms of price/performance, it is. Unless you twist it and say "LOL THE 6970 IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE 460" (lol). The 5970 doesn't count as it is not manufactured anymore.

- ATI's drivers are very good now
SC2 cursor problem.

- ATi has unlocked shaders etc with hacked BIOS for 6950 which completely beats the ":More OC with hacked drivers" you give Nvidia
What? You're comparing apples to oranges here...

1. ATI is not always cheaper... notable are the GTX 460 and GTX 560. Pretty cheap and beat ATI price/performance a lot of times. We are talking about gaming here not crunching. Reme,ber before the 6XXX came out? How the GTX 460 as a better buy especially in SLI?

2. If you are talking about the frozen mouse thing, all you gotta do is set windows font size to default.Else idk what the problem is as I don't have any problems with starcraft II

3. Well then how about the BIOS editor for ATI that can also help for the OCing... one way or another, these don't make much of a difference and shouldn't change your mind on either going NV or ATI

I agree in part where you said his comparison was flawed. Nvidia cards are no more stabler than any other card I've seen. The top end cards from both manufacturers are indeed great performing products. In most experiences I've had with ATI cards I have had extremely frustrating driver issues, but for the last year I haven't ran an ATI card enough to actually keep up with how their driver releases are maturing. The point I slightly disagree on is the 3d. While it's true ATI cards are now supporting stereoscopic 3d, from dealings I've had with some friends, it's a terribly frustrating experience trying to get it working properly. Although, it's no lie that Nvidia's 3D vision technology is a bit wonky at this stage as well. I'd really like to see ATI get it together with the 3D tech, as the 3D vision capabilities of Nvidia's hardware and software was the main selling point of my latest purchases (wife wanted home theater 3d projector setup, scraped it all up for about $1k). Otherwise I just might have jumped ship back to an ATI card this year. I may yet actually try and pick up a 5970 for my alt mining rig, for fun.

You're right about ATI not always being cheaper. Nvidia had to get a corner on the "poor man" market as well and we get the 460-560. Damned excellent cards and the bang for buck really holds up against comparably priced and slightly more expensive ATI cards. I guess it really depends on preference, but I am slightly bummed out that my 560 can't be put to better use bitcoining, when I'm not watching Avatar 3D over and over again with my wife