Quote from: daweller1 on Today at 10:44:07 AM

I just did my first every lightning network payment from a smartphone wallet to a desktop wallet ( 2 different wallets, muun and phoenix )
Now, I think I had my fee set way to high for the feww bucks I sent ( 3000 sats ),
but man it was almost instant, like less than a second.

Someday I will set up a node.

That is lightning network for us all, it takes just little time for transaction to be completed, it is almost an instant payment. You can run your own node so that it will completely be your own coins, not your node not your coin.

Quote from: franky1 on Today at 01:10:15 PM

but its not settled. its just "sent"

much like all unconfirmed payments
you can see it instantly but doesnt mean its confirmed and settled

lightning network deals in unconfirmed payments

bitcoin network has always had unconfirmed payments displayed in the same "instant"

dont be fooled into what the lightning offer salesmen tell you lightning is. becasue it doesnt work the same as bitcoin

You are getting it wrong, it is not about unconfirmed payment, when the person is ready, he can see end the coin onchain, lightning network is layeer 2 solution , you do not have to confuse people about it, as long s it is his money when he receives the coin, why then talking about unconfirmed transaction?

If a channel is opened, a transaction is confirmed to send payment into the multisig lightning network payment, also a confirmation is needed when you send it onchain.

Lightning network is a layer two solution and do not say anything is not confirmed.

If I open a channel with my friend or a restaurant, we accepts payment anytime we sees it, also if we use wallets like muun, phoenix and others.