Quote from: mprep on April 12, 2014, 04:34:34 PM

Quote from: dyingdreams on April 12, 2014, 03:38:37 PM

I would just like to point out, the concept of the "Steam Gift" gives a false sense of security. If you redeem the game to your account and at ANY point in the future a charge-back is filed or if Steam discovers that the Steam Gift was purchased using a fraudulent method Steam will permanently remove the game from your account.

That being said, jahamuha1 is a new user on these forums and this thread was his very first post. Furthermore, he is selling copies of DayZ standalone at a deep discount, and to the best of my knowledge, DayZ standalone has NEVER been on sale anywhere (if you can point to evidence to the contrary please do).

I know FOR A FACT that the only other person I've seen selling DayZ on these forums for so cheap was indeed proved to be a scammer, and several people, including myself, that received Steam Gifts from him had them revoked by Steam. I had the game Rust in my library for MONTHS before a charge-back got filed and the game was revoked from my library.

Just to clarify: I AM NOT ACCUSING JAHAMUHA1 OF BEING A SCAMMER, I just want to make sure people don't get lulled into a false sense of a security since he's dealing in Steam Gifts and using escrow or willing to send first.

Well, it's better than selling keys. If you redeem a key to your Steam account purchased fraudulently, they don't just remove the game, they ban your account.

Not that I don't believe that, but I can't find anything concerning fraudulent CD-Keys on this page. I'm not even certain how Steam would be able to "track down" whether or not a CD-Key was fraudulent, since they themselves don't sell CD-Keys.

The way Steam handles things like this is simply atrocious. They say on that page "Never accept a gift from an unknown user," as if that would solve the issue, but Steam Gifts may be traded an unlimited amount of times, meaning you could unknowingly receive a fraudulent gift from a close friend.

On the other hand Steam Gifts have the advantage of always being valid (at least at the time); with a CD-Key you never know if it's been used or just made up until you try to use it.