Quote from: Alik Bahshi on Today at 08:40:52 PM

Quote from: BADecker on Today at 07:23:48 PM

Russian fascism was started by the US. It hasn't caught up to the US, and it doesn't want to.

Free trade between countries leads to whatever the country leaders dictate. Just because there is free trade between countries doesn't mean there is free trade between the citizens of the countries.

In large countries like the US and Russia, democracy and dictatorship produce almost the same results. The people are squashed under the lies of the leaders. Note that the people are of different mindsets. Some of the people like being squashed under their leaders, because it benefits them somehow... or at least they think it does.

Before the sanctions, Russia was playing the game of trade with other countries in ways that were beneficial to Russia. That's why they shut down the Soviet Union. Some of those ways were to agree with other countries in the ways that the other countries were playing the game. It was beneficial to Russia to do it this way at that time.

After the sanctions started, there wasn't any benefit for Russia to keep on playing the trade game they had been playing. So, they looked in other areas to find what worked for them. This brings them to China and Iran, etc., to trade with. It brings them to the point of improving and increasing BRICS.

One of the things that they found was a bunch of other countries that didn't like the way the West did their trading. Many of these countries are seeing just how bad the West is with its lying banking system that is trying to rule the world; the sanctions are showing this to everybody... bringing it out into the open.

Does Russia lie? Does Putin lie? Certainly. But all western trade is based on a gigantic trade lie. This lie is that they convert loans and contracts into money, and then they multiply the money value of the loans and contracts that they have made. The money of the West is almost all fake money.

US fake money looks good. It looks good until people and foreign governments figure out is is fake. Putin and Russian leaders would rather trade true value for true value. They don't want fake money. Why not? Because the fake money will collapse sooner or later. It's happening now for the West.

Look at all the governments of all the countries. The people running them are always looking to make a 'profit' for themselves and their countries. But the West is making their profit based on banking and trading fake money... lies. They are doing this way more than Russia and Putin could ever think of doing it, and certainly don't want to do it.

The point isn't that Putin and Russia aren't bad. They are. The point is that the West and their leaders (generally) are worse... by many country miles.

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What kind of nonsense is it to accuse America of the fact that fascism has arisen in Russia?

You started your post with a fundamental mistake. In democracies, leaders do not direct trade, unlike countries with toralitarian
regimes.
They also do not manage the production of goods. The free market is the regulator of both production and trade, which was not the case, for example, in the USSR.

The West imposed sanctions to deprive the Russian fascists of the opportunity to pursue aggressive policies and wars.

You forget that it was the West that gave the Bolshevik Revolution the chance to succeed and grow.

The only two things the US Federal Government has control of by Constitution are:
1. Money coining;
2. Borders.

Any US man or woman can do cross border trade without authorization from the US government. But he can only pass things over the border if he personally owns them This leaves out corporations and companies. However, nobody does it this way... transferring personal property across the US borders. He always uses some form of corporate shipping.

This means that there is no free cross-border market in the US, except what government has allowed. The difference between the US and Russia regarding this is, the US has allowed and encouraged more than Russia because of the pasts of both countries. But it is changing. Russia is becoming freer, but the US is tightening up.

You haven't seen the regulations that most big corporations in the US must follow if they want to continue to operate.

The West fascist, aggressive governments think that they imposed sanctions to deprive the Russian fascists of the opportunity to pursue the same kinds of aggressive policies that they, the West, are pursuing. It's competition on both sides, which includes all kinds of finance to store supposed money value.

Did you forget that Russia voluntarily shut down the soviet Union, based on the Minsk Treaty? They didn't have to do this. They did if so that they could pursue free trade with many other free-trade countries. The aggressive West is trying to take Russia down to steal her land and raw materials.

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