Re: WasabiWallet.io | Open-source, non-custodial Bitcoin Wallet for desktop
I'm asking you what your concern is regarding Wasabi since Wasabi is specifically designed to defeat chain analysis businesses by coinjoining your BTC with other users, making it impossible for chain analysis businesses to trace inputs to outputs.
If it's specially designed to defeat chain analysis businesses, why does zkSNACKs, which is the repository owner, cooperate with them and say they're likely to treat some outputs differently than others[1]?No, the software does not deny outputs. Your keys, your coins.
The software per se will not deny spending certain outputs, but the default coordinator (which I'm reminding you is hosted by the founder of this project) is not going to accept certain outputs from being mixed, according to their announcement. So you don't actually have any concerns about the Wasabi software? Your complaints are entirely about a single coordinator's customer terms of service.
Nothing happens if anyone calls your coins "dirty".
Apparently, it does happen. You're not allowed to mix them on the coordinator with the highest volume.[1] https://twitter.com/wasabiwallet/status/1503091503207432193
Yeah that's exactly what I mean. Nothing happens if someone calls your coins dirty, your coins stay exactly where they are and remain exactly as private as they were before.
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I'll assume the reason you are ignoring my points yet again is because I am right and you have no satisfactory answer.I don't ignore your points and you are not right. I respond to every single one of your posts explaining in detail exactly how you are wrong, here's examples of me doing so over and over and over:
By using Wasabi, given there are no alternative non-censoring coordinators, you are directly funding blockchain analysis and paying for the privilege of being censored.
That's a hard pass from me, thanks.
That's a hard pass from me, thanks.
Again, you are completely wrong: You can use ANY coordinator with Wasabi Wallet, there is no requirement to use the zkSNACKS coordinator.
I already acknowledged you can use a different coordinator. But as I pointed out above and you ignored (please correct me if I'm wrong - I have no desire to download software which is going to spy on me to check),
You are, once again, completely wrong. The software does not spy on you. There is no data Wasabi or any of its coordinators can collect about its users, period. When you launch the wallet, your IP address is protected by default with Tor and your wallet addresses are protected by default with client side block filters.
And why would anyone waste time launching such a coordinator on software which links mixed outputs with toxic unmixed change outputs?
Wasabi does not have "toxic unmixed change outputs", anyone can verify this for themselves by looking at the blockchain: https://mempool.space/tx/01a1a055719129397fb8344b5a09e6cfe72868c8e1d750e621d8b580c96bf77b
If you use Wasabi, then the only coordinator with any volume is the coordinator which is run by the same people, and is anti-privacy and pro-censorship.
It is abundantly clear that you are part of Wasabi's team, and you have no desire to actually address our arguments but rather just repeat the same old nonsense talking points which have been thoroughly debunked on here, Twitter, Reddit, etc., many times.
Wasabi/zkSNACKs is pro-censorship, anti-fungibility, and anti-privacy.
They are rejecting a source of good revenue by blocking those transactions.
They are protecting their revenue by implementing blacklists, not reducing it. If they are unable to run a censorship-free coordinator, then the correct thing to do would be to shut down their centralized coordinator and work towards setting up decentralized ones. Instead they opted to sacrifice their users' privacy, enforce the nonsense that is "taint", and attack bitcoin itself, in order to protect their own income stream.I'm asking you what your concern is regarding Wasabi since Wasabi is specifically designed to defeat chain analysis businesses
Wasabi is specifically designed to defeat chain analysis businesses, and we do that by sending your money directly to them to pay for their services. Lmfao. Your keys, your coins, you decide how to spend them, and there's nothing anyone else can do to stop you unless they have more than 51% of the Bitcoin network hashpower.
Or you use Wasabi, and then we will stop you coinjoining them because our blockchain analysis buddies spied on you on our behalf and told us that you are very naughty!It is abundantly clear that you are part of Wasabi's team, and you have no desire to actually address our arguments but rather just repeat the same old nonsense talking points which have been thoroughly debunked on here, Twitter, Reddit, etc., many times.
Wasabi/zkSNACKs is pro-censorship, anti-fungibility, and anti-privacy.
It's clear you have no concept that Wasabi Wallet is free and open source software. Every single one of your criticisms has absolutely nothing to do with Wasabi Wallet or its privacy guarantees, you've spent every single response on this thread complaining about zkSNACKS customer policy instead.