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Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 26, 2023, 06:33:46 PM

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A set of wonderful posts which were both very well thought out and carefully articulated. At the same time they were highly through provoking too. Refreshing to read. Out of curiosity, were there any specific reasons why you quit signature campaigns around 2018 when you had already enrolled in several from 2015?

I am not going to proclaim to have any deep reasons for either getting involved in signature campaigns or for quitting.

Initially when I got involved with signature campaigns, I felt like I did not really know what they were. and then when I looked into the matter, I felt that I was somewhat agnostic to the whole matter, but since I was already posting several times a day, I might as well join a signature campaign and get paid for what I was already doing.. generally posting several times per day..

After a couple of years, I felt that I had enough experience with signature campaigns in that I was starting to consider that my participating in them was more cost than it was worth... .. for example, 1) switching campaigns from time to time because they close or changed their terms, 2) sometimes frustration waiting to get paid or finding out that their terms were changing and figuring out how to deal with such changing terms... 3) getting accused of mistakes that the entity (sponsor) was making or that the entity was accused of being dishonest, so those holding the signature were accused of "supporting" them, 4) sometimes forum moderators, staff or even other forum members would state or imply that my having the signature affected how I was posting.. which I tended to deny it, even though sure I could imagine that the longer any of us might be part of any signature campaign then our posts might be affected or perhaps the appearance that we were biased might be affected, 5) around early 2018 theymos had removed the signatures from showing on the posts in the WO thread - which was (and still is) my most frequented posting and participation area of the forum, and 6) maybe there were some other minor reasons that I chose to stop my involvement in signature campaigns or maybe even related to the fact that a lot of entities paying for sponsorships might have a kind of tendency towards having kinds of shitcoining components, even though shitcoins were not completely my reason for stopping but could be part of my difficulties in getting back involved and maybe the main overall sense that my ongoing participation in any signature campaign was not worth it to me to stay involved in such.

I don't automatically presume that a member is bias because of his/her participation in a signature campaign, even though my having had participated in a few signature campaigns, I, at least, have some experience in which I can relate to some of the motivations of getting involved in them, and even some concrete recognition and appreciation that the amount of money that might be involved could be life changing for some members.. so sometimes it does end up being relevant to have some attempts at understanding motivations of members and having some experiences that help to potentially better understand some of the processes of how signature campaigns might run and also how members might get caught up in disputes and/or drama around signature campaigns.

Overall, I do believe that it is good that the forum offers signature campaigns to members.. even though at this time, I would rather not personally participate in actually wearing one, even though I would not rule out ever getting involved in some project or potentially having some reasons to commercialize my own signature space or to use my signature space for solicitation purposes...

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Quote from: crewdede on Today at 06:37:12 PM

I assume all people who used ChipMixer, even for their own anonymity are considered they did "money laudering

The phrase says only that he facilitated money laundering. It does not say that all those who used the service did so for that purpose.

This type of observation is highly exaggerated and does not reflect the truth about known facts.

Yes.. does not seem to be a fair way to treat people who participated in this kind of a service, but if the Govt. wants to steal (or keep) your money, then they have to frame it in such a way that justifies it.. .. . and the govt agencies might well know (or calculate) that coin/token holders are not going to create a class action lawsuit to get their coins back.