Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 11:46:10 AM

Quote from: whirlwindmoney on April 03, 2023, 12:48:50 AM

Even though I don't believe I have anything to worry about, I'd still prefer to add more signers to the multi-sig so I don't have full control anymore. This would make it safer for everyone, I really do not like the fact that users have to trust me.

Let's assume there are multiple trusted signers, and the system is nicely decentralized. Would it still be possible for you to pull an exit scam by creating notes that give you access to large funds? Wouldn't the signers just sign it? And if not: how would the signers know whether or not the note was created legitimately after a deposit?

Great question - the short answer is no, it wouldn't be possible for us to exit scam at that point.

Technical explanation

Whirlwind is based on a backend + validator (signer) model. The backend interacts with users by generating deposit addresses and processing withdrawals, while the validators (signers) validate all of the backend's actions. Whenever a withdraw transaction is being sent, the signatures must be retrieved from all validators which are able to verify the transaction is correct.

When a user deposits BTC using the fast withdraw method, the backend sends the deposit hash to the validators and whitelists the receiving addresses. After the signature is sent to the backend, the validators delete all proofs of those receiving addresses, keeping only the deposit transaction hash so that they would not accept a “duplicate proof”.

When a user deposits BTC using the Note method, the backend sends the deposit hash to the validators and they assign credit to the Note’s public key. When the user wants to withdraw his BTC, he must send a signature to the backend which will process this. This signature will also be sent to the validators which will check it and remove credit from the note’s public key and whitelist the receiving addresses.

If an attacker compromises the backend server, he would not be able to forge user Note signatures in order to fool a validator to send him funds, because only the users have access to the Note’s private keys. Again, the proofs are deleted after their use.

Comments

As explained above the signers are doing way more than just signing transactions, that's why I previously said that the only way we could get exploited is if an attacker gains access to all signers at once without us noticing.
Everything I said above would be provable at that point since the whole codebase would be open-source (if not open-source then at the very least all signers would have complete access to frontend/backend/signers code)