Quote from: paxmao on March 19, 2023, 11:38:33 PM

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Quote from: paxmao on March 14, 2023, 12:04:53 AM

Quote from: Branko on March 13, 2023, 12:36:33 PM

I think Russia has no reason to take Bakhmut...why chase enemy when other side is readily bringing new soldiers for
easy kill

Have you taken a look at the map? What can you see in the vicinity of Bakhmut? Elevated positions with cover of rocks, trees, hills, river banks? Do you see anything in there that looks like a good attacking position? No, you do not, it is exactly the opposite - You will see a nightmare for the attacker, were they are detected klicks away from the defending positions. Would you like to be the attacker there Branko?

Can't people just google before saying something silly?

The only reason to attack it is because it is the Donbas and the RF needs to take the Donbas to be able to sell some short of "victory" to the world. Wagnerites are expendable, people from Dagestan and other satellites of Moscow are spendable.

As I write this post, I am looking at the videos of Ukrainians training in Leopards. They seem veeeery pleased.

Geographically, Bakhmut is located in a lowland, and all the dominant heights around the city have long been controlled by Wagner. I don’t know what political and image dividends Ukraine is trying to extract by continuing to hold the city, but from a purely military point of view, this is madness, comparable to exchanging a bishop for a pawn in a chess game. The sacrifice may be justified if you have a sharp attacking combination play, but now it looks like a rather pathetic attempt to just buy some time to prepare for the mythical counter-offensive to Melitopol to cut the land corridor to the Crimea. It seems that this is the ultimate dream of Ukrainian military strategists.

Oh, the mythical counteroffensive... sure, keep your eyes on Bahkmut, no need to notice the 40 thousand motorised troops being massed in the Zaporilla area. Do not look there, nothing is going to happen in the next 3 weeks. Nothing at all. An the explosions in Sebastopol were again, RF soldiers smoking by the gas barrels. There is no resistance and no partisans in the zone. Nothing happening.

The drama in this war is getting ridiculous. It was what like 2 weeks ago it was looking like Ukraine was going to have to give up on Bakhmut?

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Ukrainian forces are ‘not going anywhere,’ Prigozhin says.

Yevgeny Prigozhin, the leader of Russia’s Wagner militia, said on Thursday that Ukrainian forces were “not going anywhere” and were continuing to fight in Bakhmut, contradicting his previous assertions that the mercenaries he commands were close to taking control of the bitterly contested city in eastern Ukraine.

The Ukrainians “have organized defense inside the city,” Mr. Prigozhin said on his social media channel. “We cannot talk of any offensive yet.”

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/04/06/world/russia-ukraine-news#russia-prigozhin-wagner-ukraine-bakhmut